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i've self taught myself the pass from rough ideas or hints i've picked up from random videos and was wondering if anybody could pm me with a written "help" guide or links to helpful videos plz help me I'm really stuck!












not sure if this kind of thing is allowed or not so dont be too harsh if its frowned upon

If you've taught it to yourself... you've probably got it wrong.

RRTCM has a section on it, but it's not great. It is only £9.99 though and there's enough stuff to make a career of in there...

Ninja 1 from ellusionist features Brad Christian teaching the pass albeit somewhat briefly.
Keep watching it back over and over and you'll learn.

About all the advice I can give for now mate

Richard Kaufman's 'On The Pass' DVD is pretty good (check my review), and I've heard that 'Pass With Care' is a good learning source too.

If you don't have a DVD player, then Ken Krenzel's Pass video is good (again check my review)

If you don't have access to any of that, then you could purchase Gary Ouellet's book 'The Pass' (I think I have reviewed it as well) There's a nice bit at the end on the 'Asher Twist' as well.

Ninja 1 doesn't really go into enough detail in my opinion, but the DVD is worth checking out anyway.

Hope this helps in some small way!

I have Ninja (Brad C.), On the Pass (Richard Kaufman), Pass with Care (Peter Cassford) and The Pass (Randy Wakeman). I learned the pass from Ninja 1 but that was hard since it wasn't the videos main subject. It was for beyond the pass. On the Pass and The Pass are for many passes, On the Pass seem to have a couple variations of the classic and a little more. The Pass teaches a lot more with quick teaching. Since I like to have a one nicely tought pass, I'll go with the Pass with Care.

So I will suggest Pass with Care from Peter Cassford. He teaches the classic pass, and making invisible, explains details for it. I really like it.

GaMeR wrote: On the Pass and The Pass are for many passes, On the Pass seem to have a couple variations of the classic and a little more. The Pass teaches a lot more with quick teaching. Since I like to have a one nicely tought pass, I'll go with the Pass with Care.

Thats a lot of passing!

Ah the pervy uni student returns

I think you might be thinking of the wrong sort of pass mate lol

I personally think that the pass is one of, if not, the most, important moves in card sleights.

I think it's definitely one of the most useful ones. It's well worth pretty much whatever it takes to learn it, however, with good shuffle controls etc, it's really just another method of controlling a card.

So I can't say I agree on it being one of the most important sleights I'm afraid

Let's not have that debate again - at the end of the day you love or hate it, but as Roberto Giobbi writes there isn't really any control as elegant as a WELL DONE pass.

I'll reccomend On the Pass.

*moving 51 cards to control 1*

Kati

Indeed, it makes me laugh though when people suggest alternatives:

Double undercut - pretty much moving 52 cards and the spec sees (oh, it just doesnt require as much practice)

Any shuffle - as above.

(oops I just had the debate)

Sidesteal, spread cull, Mike's Move...

Kati

indeed but they aren't common argument.

1 card = staddle pass (I think that's the name)

katrielalex wrote:Mike's Move...

Blimey, I'd forgotten all about that move. I was quite fond of that one. Although the name is still undeniably naff.

It's great! Only problem is that it's a bit angley...still, if you have the misdirection it's one of the best ways of controlling a card.

Kati