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Hello, I'm new to magic and would LOVE to learn some tricks ($107.00 worth ) and I have read some reviews and I can't choose wich one to get. Wich one is better for begginers?

Thank you,
Begginer Magician

If you're completely new to magic, I wouldn't suggest buying either.
I'd get at least a basic foundation in sleight of hand, be it coins or cards or whatever.

Get a hold of "Office Magic" if you want to tricks with everyday objects, then grab a copy of Royal Road To Card Magic, if you wanna learn card magic, and then go get Bobo's Modern Coin Magic if you want to do tricks with coins...

Then progress to bigger one hit tricks such as sinful or abyss


Why not head over to the introductions section and tell us a bit about yourself?

Alrighty, thank you for your response.

No worries... Royal Road and Bobo combined will cost you maybe $20...

You'll still have plenty left for your trick of choice afterwards mate

Sweet I love cheap!

What about these?

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Oh dear...

Who wants to be the first to tell him about CUPS?

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My little essay may help.

Begginer Magic wrote:Sweet I love cheap!

What about these?

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Just a couple of my opinions:

Just in Case - Unless you're planning to perform walkaround magic often, it's going to look a little weird carrying a "cute" briefcase around all the time when you can amaze friends equally with a deck of cards or a couple of coins.

Coin Ashrah - I much prefer doing a floating bill instead. This product sounds as if it may need some preparation beforehand; which can work against you if people ask to examine the coin or you are doing it for different groups of people.

Butter Coin - Damn. I got to say the description actually sounds good. But the spiel is also another way to say this is a product for lazy magicians who don't want to spend the time mastering some sleights. Still it sounds good... Heh.

Cigarette through Quarter - I have this and honestly, it's not one of the most practical effects you can carry around. Mostly because people you'll be performing for aren't going to be well-behaved audience members who will just sit, gawk, applaud, and kiss your feet. They'll grab your coin, your hands, your pants; they'll bite and curse and spit at you and hold your little sister hostage till you agree to repeat the effect again and again and again until they finally catch on how you did it. It's visual, it has impact, but I don't perform this as much as I thought I would when I first got it.


Actually check out the reviews on the forum. They are often well written and well thought-out, and thanks to the review template, you can often ttell if a product is suitable to your skill level.

But with Royal Road to Card Magic, Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and Annemann's Practical Mental Magic, you're good to go and conquer some big fish. Best of luck!!

I'm surprised the born to perform dvd hasn't been mentioned yet!?

Ok I'll mention it. If you want to go down the card magic route at any point then Born to perform is the dvd to get.

For some reason I have never been very good at learning magic from a book as I find it very difficult to visualise the hand movements etc. from a drawing or a written explaination.

Butter Coin - Damn. I got to say the description actually sounds good. But the spiel is also another way to say this is a product for lazy magicians who don't want to spend the time mastering some sleights. Still it sounds good... Heh.

actualy i'd recomend a butter coin as you practise sleights as you can get some performance experience in as you learn same as i would recomend a stripper deck with royal road, dvd or book.

if you don't want to go american ther are 50p ultra coins that do the same job just stall well clear of the 10p butter coins that come with the american dvd.

if you into coins then invest in a hopping half set idealy an expanded version though the sun and moon version is a lot cheeper but uses token coins rather than curency.
why hopping halfs well you will get a set of coins that include 2 count them jim lad 2 coins that are regular favourates in coin magic and one set of coins will be able to do several tricks that can be combined with slights.

some examples are multiplying coins,a version of free will, coins through hand, lighning coin transpo, one half makes a doller note, coin to pocket and many more, refer to bobo's book for explanations.

oh and madden when you get to the dizzy hights of performing for cash you will find you will take the easy lasy route over complicated slieghts mor often than knot thats just the nature of the bussiness it gives you time to concentrate on your performance which at the end of the day is what will get you rebooked not how dificult the slieght you just performed.
not haveing a go mate please don't take it the wrong way i used to do a misers dream sequence with chinese coins that whent on to jumbo ones with tenkies and downs, classics and spellbounds.
now i use a loop of cat gut a bucket and a jumbo coin.

I put some ideas in your introduction post

magicdiscoman wrote:oh and madden when you get to the dizzy hights of performing for cash you will find you will take the easy lasy route over complicated slieghts mor often than knot thats just the nature of the bussiness it gives you time to concentrate on your performance which at the end of the day is what will get you rebooked not how dificult the slieght you just performed.
not haveing a go mate please don't take it the wrong way i used to do a misers dream sequence with chinese coins that whent on to jumbo ones with tenkies and downs, classics and spellbounds.
now i use a loop of cat gut a bucket and a jumbo coin.

Haha... No worries. I understand what you're saying about economy, but since Begginer [sic] Magic confessed to being new at magic, I thought it would be a good idea to get him to learn the old sleights etc. Guess I was thinking that it would at least give him a bit of knowledge so if and when he buys an effect that tells him to do a Tenkai palm or a Bobo switch, he'll at least know what they're talking about.

But that's just from my own point of view, and since I'm not too experienced myself, I think my words should be taken with a pinch of salt. Nevertheless, I found that going through the "old books" like RRTCM etc helped me a lot in terms of technical knowledge and some magic history.

i totaly agree but was saying that since performing is a major part of magic if you went through royal road with a stripper deck you could also get some experience performing because you had the confidence of a stripper as backup, this is how i learnt by being thrown in at the depend.

this is not for all but if you could do card locations wilst you learnt palms and switches, colur changes etc then you'd be that much further into the performance and twice as confident in your abilities.

ive seen many a newbie magician being put off magic because there slieght goes wrong and they have no backup, so i think one balances the other.

magicdiscoman wrote:this is not for all but if you could do card locations wilst you learnt palms and switches, colur changes etc then you'd be that much further into the performance and twice as confident in your abilities.

ive seen many a newbie magician being put off magic because there slieght goes wrong and they have no backup, so i think one balances the other.

Oh yes excellent point. Someone once told me that the easiest way to learn sleights is not go through a book from page 1 to page 400 but rather to be learning routines and effects and mastering the sleights as I try to learn the tricks.

Yea I think I should get a stripper deck soon too. Heh.