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Flash Kit from Flash magic

Postby Pcwizme » Jun 29th, '06, 13:08



Flash kit from Flash Magic


The Effect
make fire! not an effect as such just an assortment of supplies and a finger flasher to get you going


Cost

£32.99

Difficulty
(1=easy to do, 2=No sleights, but not so easy, 3=Some sleights used,
4=Advanced sleights used, 5=Suitable for experienced magicians only)

i would say a 5 due to the handleing of flash materials should only be done by people who know want they are doing!

Review
This kit is a great price! and some really good stuff! the Flash paper is Awsome its nice and clean and looks a little bit like toilet roll! but really good

the Flash wool is better than Davenports stuff and thats good

the Finger flasher is nice simple to use and easy to drop no more to be said! also made to last for ever with repalcable parts



Overall

package 9/10
Service 12/10
Speed of delivery 12/10
all in all a smile rating of Cheshire cat :D

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 29th, '06, 13:21

Thank you for your kind words. I am glad you are happy with our products. The paper / pads / wool are rather fast aren't they? blink and you will miss it :lol: I would suggest keeping a spare flint wheel on you in case you need to replace at short notice.

Thanks again and keep on flashing

Hand flashers in stock soon including the Monster Flasher :shock:

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Postby costas » Jun 29th, '06, 14:19

Thanks Pcwizme for the review. Admittedly, I do not know much about flash products at all, but if I were to purchase any in the future, I would definitely do it from Stephen.

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 29th, '06, 14:22

Thanks guys! just ordered some Flash Powder and a hand flasher on a P**l. We have a newsletter if anyone is interested :lol:

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Postby costas » Jun 29th, '06, 14:31

Just signed up for it :D !

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Postby Mandrake » Jun 29th, '06, 15:28

Good review, Pcwizme, you got in before me but I can certainly echo your comments. Price was excellent (check out buying individual items yourself and see what a good deal you get at Flash Magic!), service and order handling were to a very high standard, 'technical' enquiries over the ordering process on line were dealt with promptly and effectively, and the goods arrived first thing next day despite the awful Postal Service in this part of the Universe.

The contents of the kit are a real gem, the flasher works very efficiently and is adaptable to individual preferences for a comfy location. I've only tried the flash wool so far and it is very swift and effective. I'm told that my right eyebrow won't take too long to grow back again so that's OK.

I'm transferring the paper envelopes to Ziploc bags as an added precaution and, to be on the safe side, a metal container from the Christmas choccies will be used for more permanent storage. I see Flash Magic will shortly have the glitter powder in stock so……... C.U.P.S.? Never heard of it :shock: .

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Postby Pitto » Jun 29th, '06, 15:32

I may be wrong but I don't think Flash Paper should be kept in a metal container as it's explosive?

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Re: Flash Kit from Flash magic

Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 29th, '06, 15:42

Pcwizme wrote: flash materials should only be done by people who know want they are doing!


I knew selling some to the Monkeys at the zoo was a mistake :lol:

Mandrake wrote: I've only tried the flash wool so far and it is very swift and effective. I'm told that my right eyebrow won't take too long to grow back again so that's OK.


Hmmm. Flash eyebrows :lol: I will see what i can do :shock:

It is safe to store, just keep away from strong heat / light etc. Thanks for the nice words.

Powder and new hand flasher should be here any day. Thanks for the kind comments Mandrake and keep on flashing :lol:

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Postby Mandrake » Jun 29th, '06, 15:42

Pitto wrote:I may be wrong but I don't think Flash Paper should be kept in a metal container as it's explosive?

Good point - comments welcome please.

My idea was to contain it well away form all sources of igntion. At one time it was suggested that such stuff be kept sligtly damp and only dried out just before use - is that still the current thinking?

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Postby taneous » Jun 29th, '06, 15:57

Michael Jay posted some good advice on storing fp quite a while ago. I dug it out:

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic3902.php&highlight=storing+flash+paper

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Postby Pitto » Jun 29th, '06, 15:59

Indeed that's who i heard it from - cheers for that.

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Postby Mandrake » Jun 29th, '06, 16:08

And I even put a copy in the Archives! Just for the record:
In September 2004 Michael Jay wrote:I would suggest keeping any kind of flash product out of air tight containers. Flash products are considered "low" explosives because their burn rate is slow and therefore, they do not explode. When kept in containers that do not allow for expansion, however, they will explode and in a glass container will throw shards of glass as shrapnel - a dangerous combination.

One such example happened to a professional magician (pro pyro too, by the way) here in the states. He kept his flash powder in a small tin container (formerly a cigar sleeve). For reasons still unkown, the powder ignited and, being in a container that did not allow for quick expansion, an explosion occured. The magician lost the fingers of his hand and this was during a formal kid's show...

Flash cotton and flash wool should be stored dry in a cool, dry place. They have a low flash point, therefore heat is your enemy. So is dampness. If stored damp, the chemicals involved in the material will break down over a period of time. Even if stored dry, the chemicals will eventually break down anyway. No flash product should be used after a year of storage (if you need to store it for more than a year, you bought too much anyway). While the products will last for over a year in storage, there is a good chance that the burn rate will be affected - could be quicker, could be slower.

Powders must always be kept dry and in plastic containers. The reason for the plastic is that it will burn off, which allows for expansion. Any container, like metal, that doesn't allow expansion during an accidental ignition will explode.

Flash paper can be stored dry, but may also be stored wet. As advised in a post above, just use a mister and lightly mist the paper - you don't need to have it soaked. Flash paper is technically nitrocellulose, which isn't a "paper" at all. The process of making flash paper is highly unstable and, even if you know the chemical breakdown, you should never attempt to make it yourself. Once the paper is finished, it is stable (but with a very low flash point), however, the process itself allows for easy explosion if anything is slightly wrong (like room temperature).

When handling flash paper, the tightness of the ball will affect its burn rate. A loosely balled piece of flash paper will burn fast enough that you can actually ignite it in the hand. You will feel the heat, but you won't get burned because of the speed of consumption (unless you are using a piece about the size of a bed sheet). However, if you ball it tightly, it will take longer to consume. Kept in the hand, a tightly wadded ball will, in fact, burn the skin. However, if you are throwing it into the air and want it to last a while before burning out, then use a tightly wadded ball. A good suggestion for throwing the paper is when balling it tightly, leave a small piece sticking out from the ball - much like a fuse. When ready, you can light the fuse piece, which will give you a fraction of a second to launch the ball into the air before the main part of it ignites.

As with anything that burns, never forget that burns to the skin are among the most painful of maladies and, if bad enough, will leave scars on you for the rest of your life. Skin has a low burning point and as a result will burn easily. One reason is that body temperature, 96 degrees, is already hot and, as a result, is already half way to the burn point for skin. Hair ignites extremely easily and has a way of getting into flame, especially if you have long hair and use hair spray (which is highly flammable). Excercise extreme caution when working with flammables and never forget that when using a flammable you have all kinds of stuff around you that is also flammable (you probably have some flash paper in reserve, too, which will easily ignite if you get careless).

Never believe that you are 100% in control of flame. Treat it as you would a rattle snake i.e. when handled with care and caution, you are fairly safe, but when you think that you are fully safe, you get bit (or burnt).

Good luck with your flash products and please, stay safe.

Mike.


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Postby Pitto » Jun 29th, '06, 16:42

Stephen - what do you think of the idea of including a summerised version of the above post with your Flash products?

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 29th, '06, 16:46

Good idea. I can do my own version and include it with the products or as a free PDF on the website. Just tested the first newsletter on myself. It looks great!, really pleased with it :D

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Postby Pitto » Jun 29th, '06, 16:48

yeah good idea - I wouldn't know where to keep Flash paper.

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