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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Mr Grumpy » Oct 31st, '11, 16:17



ACE T wrote:Doesn't Paul Daniels use Waddingtons? Or did I dream that?


I don't know. Do you dream about Paul Daniels a lot?

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Mandrake » Oct 31st, '11, 16:18

I've seen Paul do card stuff in cabaret many times and he always used Waddingtons. When I saw him in Tamworth recently he was using Bikes.

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby JammyT » Oct 31st, '11, 16:21

The Devil's Tailor wrote:Do Waddingtons have a sort of plasticy smell? The deck I found in a pub recently had a sort of plasticy smell. It may have been my imagination though. Was very drunk!

And can you faro Waddies? I haven't tried.


Wouldn't know because i've never used them.

Which is why I found it strange someone posting 'Normal people use Waddington No1, bridge size'

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Mr Grumpy » Oct 31st, '11, 16:24

I guess they meant that non-magicians in the UK tend to use Waddingtons and magicians tend to use Bikes.

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby JammyT » Oct 31st, '11, 16:31

The Devil's Tailor wrote:I guess they meant that non-magicians in the UK tend to use Waddingtons and magicians tend to use Bikes.


Yeah probs, my bad, just can't imagine using Waddy's or any Bridge size card for that

I actually prefer David Blaine's Split Spades to Bikes

some say they are exactly the same, I would disagree

If you haven't tried the Split Spades I would defo give them a go

White Lions are even better!

in fact I am going to Review the White Lions now!

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Mr Grumpy » Oct 31st, '11, 16:37

A bloke in the pub the other night (Goose & Crown, Camden Town) performed with the Split Spades for one of the bar maids.

Even I, a magician very fond of gimmicks, didn't suspect that they were gaffed, despite that a few weeks back I read about them on the net. They were in fact a marked deck.

Just goes to show how fooling casual handling can be.

I then had a go of them, performed a quick Ambitious Card. They felt to me to be considerably thicker than Bikes. Very high quality cards.

I find the design on the back to be very ugly though. I like a more subtle pattern, I guess.

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Chris Black » Nov 1st, '11, 10:27

The Devil's Tailor wrote:
ACE T wrote:Doesn't Paul Daniels use Waddingtons? Or did I dream that?


I don't know. Do you dream about Paul Daniels a lot?


Not a lot! ;)

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby JammyT » Nov 1st, '11, 10:31

The Devil's Tailor wrote:A bloke in the pub the other night (Goose & Crown, Camden Town) performed with the Split Spades for one of the bar maids.

Even I, a magician very fond of gimmicks, didn't suspect that they were gaffed, despite that a few weeks back I read about them on the net. They were in fact a marked deck.

Just goes to show how fooling casual handling can be.

I then had a go of them, performed a quick Ambitious Card. They felt to me to be considerably thicker than Bikes. Very high quality cards.

I find the design on the back to be very ugly though. I like a more subtle pattern, I guess.


They aren't all gaffed, you can get a Stripper, Marked and Svengali version of the split spades but also normal decks with the odd gaff card i.e. double backer or Q of Spades holding 4 of Spades but in essence they are normal decks.

If you are not keen on the design check out the White Lions, they feel even better and have a really simple back design which reminds me of the Bee decks.

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Mr Grumpy » Nov 1st, '11, 12:11

Yes, I knew they weren't all gaffed, but I've no idea why I posted about the gaffed cards. I think because someone said something about how you should use Waddingtons because people suspect cards that they don't recognise as being gaffed. I was trying to give an example of how people tend not to think about gaffs, even magicians. (Or maybe that's just me!)

I really like the White Lions. I think the other DB cards look a bit cheesy, in a way. Not quite sure. These have a classier look.

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Mr Grumpy » Nov 1st, '11, 12:12

Here's an image of the White Lions.

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby JammyT » Nov 1st, '11, 12:57

See what I mean about the simple Bee-esque design?

This deck is a bit of a treasure chest.

I still haven't figured them out yet dammit!

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby Mr Grumpy » Nov 1st, '11, 13:00

I now have a major crush on them and am thinking of asking a deck out for a date.

Love the jokers.

If they brought out a one way deck or a joker deck or blank back deck, I'd use them for Ambitious Card. Force one of those cards and get the spec to sign. Otherwise you end up with cards missing from the deck every time someone signs a card. I can't think of any other way around that problem. At present I use Bikes and force a blank face card.

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby JammyT » Nov 1st, '11, 14:17

The Devil's Tailor wrote:I now have a major crush on them and am thinking of asking a deck out for a date.

Love the jokers.

If they brought out a one way deck or a joker deck or blank back deck, I'd use them for Ambitious Card. Force one of those cards and get the spec to sign. Otherwise you end up with cards missing from the deck every time someone signs a card. I can't think of any other way around that problem. At present I use Bikes and force a blank face card.


Someone has made a White LIons ID and are selling on ebay

Unfortunately I never bought a brick of these so there is no way anyone is signing them

I just use Bikes for that, I'll use the same deck for my ACR, let specs keep their card and when I'm down to about 35 - 40 cards I will open a new deck and use the other for spares / tears

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby ej16 » Nov 2nd, '11, 01:08

I heard Tally Ho deck are better, Is this true?

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Re: Bicycle Cards - Poker, Blue or Red

Postby JammyT » Nov 2nd, '11, 12:34

To me Tally-Ho and Bikes are the same thing

different design but same company, printers, stock and finish.

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