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cant find it on the site i think they may of stopped selling it can anyone post the link to the dvd

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Here's the link:

http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/products

Just to further the comments already made, while it is a fairly heavy price tag it's worth every penny!
Not only are the routines on there amazing and elegant, Derren's insight into the a subtle use of timing and beats in card magic is worth the cost alone. (His misdirection for the Rub-a-dub vanish is simple and yet brilliant!).
If nothing else it will make you reconsider your current repertoire, and how tiny moments can polish it and bring it into something greater. He also makes points towards why card magic can sometimes be uninvolving and cold, and he tries to rectify it (see his Oil and Water).

There's really no need for me to say much more, I don't think I can endorse it any more than everyone else already has.

A work every serious magician should have!

Mark

P.S. Get Absolute Magic in conjunction with it, (Pure Effect less so), it is just as, if not more, insightful into powerful card and close up magic.

aarghhh! Damn my insomniac late night CUPS!

Can't afford it but have just brought this on DVD. I also found the link to the dodgy copy I mentioned earlier and although I feel a bit of a snitch I sent it to Mr Brown's email address, so it's in his capable hands now...

is it on Channel 4 Shop? sorry but i cant find it on there can you post the link to the dvd it self

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Sky321 wrote:is it on Channel 4 Shop? sorry but i cant find it on there can you post the link to the dvd it self

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The DBP has never, and I hope will never be aired on mainstream TV. It's a rare and gorgeous treat of a production, and should be kept firmly in the sheltered small circulation that it's already in.

There's been an explosion of magic newbies over the last 12 months, with magic being made popular by TV. A lot of the stuff many of us have held as secret for so long has been blasted into the open.

Whilst there's been many discussions on the pros and cons of this, I still believe it a great sadness that I can find TTs as a 'joke' item in shops now.

Further more soul destroying is the lack of respect the 'new-gen' magicians have for the authors. Constantly we see pirated stuff flying around forums, eBay and even trading sites.

I do hope the fuss dies down soon. The age of the playground magician is upon us, and whilst there's new and upcoming 'trendy' magicians, such as Blaine, Angel and Dynamo airing new and fantastic magic on TV, there will always be a thirst for divulgence of magic secrets I'm afraid.

I seriously think that some sort of alliance should be formed, like FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft), for magicians and magic media... could be called AMACT (alliance of magicians against copyright theft?).

Even just yesterday, I received an email asking if I had any interest in purchasing a DVD stuffed full of magic, for just $45.

Getting to the point of despair now.

Siege

I don’t want it arid on mainstream TV i said can it be found on the Channel 4 Shop if so i cant find it but interesting post but I just want to find out where to get it not about
federation copyright theft issues people are copying DVD’s and CD's everyday around the world and making money from it in a nice way get over it and move on. I for sure don’t put it on the top of my list as important things to worry about there are kids dieing out there because they got nothing to eat


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Sky321 wrote:Siege

I don’t want it arid on mainstream TV i said can it be found on the Channel 4 Shop if so i cant find it but interesting post but I just want to find out where to get it not about
federation copyright theft issues people are copying DVD’s and CD's everyday around the world and making money from it in a nice way get over it and move on. I for sure don’t put it on the top of my list as important things to worry about there are kids dieing out there because they got nothing to eat


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Channel 4 will never sell this product, because, as I said, it has never been aired by them.

And are you seriously suggesting I 'get over it and move on' over copyright issues? Copyright theft is stealing. Copying a movie, PDF file, audio file, document or anything else which is copyright protected is going against the will of the author.

Receiving such items is theft.

Selling such items is theft.

And no, I can't personally get over it. I know how hard magicians work to produce these documents and media. And no, most magician's aren't filthy rich. They do this for a job—ergo, they get paid for their work.

Taking a copy of someone's hard work is denying them their wages, basically.

I wish the law would come down more severely on filesharing etc. and make more serious attempts at clamping it down.

I was always taught to work hard for what I want. And I was taught to live by a basic rule: If you can't afford it, you shouldn't have it.

I do wish today's younger generation would learn the same values.

Back to the DPB, as ever, I advise you BUY a copy directly from DERREN's SITE and make sure the money hits his pocket.

http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk , you need to go to purchases and then type the secret answer thing, it is changed every so often.

Edited by mods: The secret question is there for a reason. No divulgences please.
[Sorry Mods!]

But see it like this someone who can’t afford it won’t buy it so if they download it copy it from a friend or whatever then the author won’t be losing because as they can’t afford it they would of never brought it to begin with

You want them to come down on file sharing and i my self keep hoping they will come down more on people that takes someone else's life and murder them you really need to put things in prospective

By any chance does this keep you up at night?

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Now where is that burger?

Sky321 wrote:But see it like this someone who can’t afford it won’t buy it so if they download it copy it from a friend or whatever then the author won’t be losing because as they can’t afford it they would of never brought it to begin with

You want them to come down on file sharing and i my self keep hoping they will come down more on people that takes someone else's life and murder them you really need to put things in prospective

By any chance does this keep you up at night?

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We all have choices. If you want to break the law and steal things which you cannot afford then fine.

Let me put YOU in the picture slightly...

Because I cannot AFFORD a McClaren Mercedes, does NOT give me the right to go and steal one. As you say, if I couldn't afford it anyway, would the OWNER of the car really mind if I stole it?

No it doesn't keep me up at night. (I leave that to Mrs Seige ).

Nothing is sacred anymore, and the petty, smallminded criminals who are stealing this stuff and re-sharing it without right to are living on borrowed time.

I ask you to consider this, by the renowned Kenton Knepper:
http://www.xmission.com/~zerowc/krystal ... eason.html

The effect which piracy and filesharing will ultimately have on the magic community is that magician's will stop creating new magic if they know their stuff is being circulated by file harvesters and being sold without consent.

Final thought: By purchasing software, music, DVDs, magic, literature LEGITIMATELY you are re-funding the creatives who generated it.
By stealing it, you are working against the system. If stealing is your thing, then so be it.

(How you can possibly compare this to murder is an indication perhaps of your innocence. But if it were you who was spending countless hours writing and researching this material, you would understand. I know, because I am one such person who has had work stolen.)

I my self have not stolen anything i was just pointing out something like i said before if it’s good i will buy it if not then i won't

Your right the guy who owns that Mercedes wouldn’t want you to steal his car but i am sure he wouldn’t mind you taking a copy of it

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Sky321 wrote:I my self have not stolen anything i was just pointing out something like i said before if it’s good i will buy it if not then i won't

Your right the guy who owns that Mercedes wouldn’t want you to steal his car but i am sure he wouldn’t mind you taking a copy of it

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Sky, I am not meaning to sound prejudgmental here, but a great deal of your posts in the past have suggested that you believe in 'something for nothing'.

This isn't condoned here at TalkMagic, and if you insist on chomping at the bit, then I suggest you go somewhere else.

Is buying a magic DVD wrong because the magician who put out the DVD will not receive any more funds from the new purchaser. Guess someone bought it originally though so they get some benefit.

Generally, magic DVDs don't have a condition that they are not for resale. The magician who produced them has at least been paid once, so there isn't such a problem as there is with copying material.

Personally, I'm surprised more magic products don't prohibit resale, but of course it'd be a major hassle to keep track of who purchased the item first.

Sky321, you've missed the point. It's not whether or not the owner of an individual Mercedes would mind, it's whether Mercedes itself would mind. Why would they want knock-off Mercs on the streets? It harms their finances and, even if the person with the copy wouldn't have bought at full price anyway, it harms their brand.

Personally I don't have a problem with the resale of original DVDs but I understand the reasons for those that do.

However I do object to hooky copies of magic DVD's and those awful ebay ebooks that cheapen the effects they present.. These aren't just recouping some of the money spent by honest magicians, they are profit making schemes, stealing other peoples work and turning it into a quick buck for anyone who owns a DVD writer..

If you notice above I said that although I'm pretty spent out I have still purchased the DVD direct from Mr Brown's site, this is due to the fact that it sounds like it will teach me more about my beloved art and I feel that three hours tuition from a master magician is worth £35 of anyones cash.

Magic is about secrets (that's the bottom line) so lets all do our best to keep them!