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Just the same quality as a normal bike deck, but double the price! I bought a pack of these and I had great ideas for certain colour changes but I would never, never use these as a normal deck, there is just no point!

By the way, do you think the first editions of these cards will be worth a bit of money soon, if they're all new and sealed?

Maybe, but i wouldnt build your hopes up.

Even if they did, it would have to be quite a long time, as ellusionist keep on producing it until it stops selling. And that may be a while.

your right, I got some packs only to realise I will never use them, nice tho

I find them to be a lot more slippery than normal Bikes. Is is just me?

I was doing a test with these under a uv light anf these do glow brightly under the uv light. It makes them look realy cool!!
I brought these cards to school along with my tigers and nobody suspected anything! It was great!!!!!

I haven't seen these cards, but I can see the possibilities.

Swap the case if it looks c*** (not the best), use one of your old cases. Distress it by applying brown shoe polish and then bashing the case with a bunch of keys. Complete the distressing by tearing the flaps slightly and then folding them back and forth repeatedly until they become loose.

Carefully remove a very tatty box from your pocket and say the deck belonged to your great, great grandfather, Rudolph Bartholomew Winstantin, a Victorian seer of future events. Then go into any prediction type trick. I can see lots of possibilities, don't buy a deck and not use it.

To my eyes, they look like brand news cards made to look aged, but when I was peforming recently and I used this deck, a couple of specs commented at how old the cards were and asked how old the deck was.
Perfect storytelling opening about it being a family heirloom and I was the descendant of a great Victorian illusionist who died whilst performing one of the effect I will be performing later. This also tied in well with Heirloom, so yes, I underestimated the impression and fascination a deck of this kind has to the layman!

So specs tend to believe that they are ACTUALLY as old as you say they are? Thinking about it I suppose I would believe so to.

And do they handle better than other decks?

I wouldn't say better, even after riffling them,etc, to break them in, they still have a bit of a slippery feel.
They do look good though. Obviously, I know there a special deck and thought that specs wouldn't be fooled into thinkinh they were a genuinely ancient pack, but they were, without me saying!
I was just using them casually and it was commented upon TWICE about how old they were. I gave a bit of BS and said that I had paid to have them specially laminted as they had been passed down through generation's since the 1800's and I wanted to preserve them.
This stopped any curious questions that may have ocurred once the spec handled a card themselves. It was already answered.

Sorry freddie, I have to disagree, I got a deck of these and have to agree with what GrantW said, they are no different from a normal deck...Just buy 2 deck of card from the same price

They do look nice.. but they look almost too perfect to be passed off as old cards..

with the appropriate storyline it could work, but theres nothing special about them.

they look nice though

I think that we're looking at these cards as magicians only, instead of looking at them from a lay persons point as well.

I've used these a few times and have often had lay people comment about the cards being old. Yes, there is nothing special about them as cards, or the quality over normal Bikes at half the price but that's not the point of them.

I'm not trying to justify them - you can do that yourselves if you want them. It's a bit like knowing the secret to a trick, once you know you will never view it the same as you did before you learned the secret. We know what we're buying with Vintage Series cards but that doesn;t mean that the specs know what they are looking at.

It's the same argument as Tigers but in reverse. We know they are normal cards but the specs often think they are suspicious. It's about different perspectives and using that to suit. Isn't that what magic is partly about?

Hey guys, greetings!

I just bought the 1800s from my local magic store as well. I have to say, they look real great! Like some people mentioned, they are real slippery though during the first handlings, but I believe that once I break into them, they'll be real great!

On the note whether the cards could be passed as a pack of old cards, I agree that they feel way too new for it to be old. But it does capture the layman's attention! How often do you see a pack of cards thats like the 1800s? Not very often. As an added bonus, if they do believe that the cards are THAT old, then by all means, keep on exagerating and lie to them! Isn't that what we magicians are good at?

sorry? I didn't quite catch that