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by **Lord Freddie** » Sep 6th, '07, 21:02

I don't think it will make one jot of a difference, sadly.
Exposure is one thing, but magic performed badly is the worst exposure and youtube can't really remove a video as it's a bad performance.

When you see some of the things that are allowed on there, exposure of magic is no doubt the least of their worries. It's a pain, but there's little we can do about it.

by **mccabe24** » Sep 6th, '07, 22:18

Just signed it. I really hope this works. Mind, even if it does, Lord Freddie makes a good point.

by **themagicwand** » Sep 6th, '07, 22:43

Magicians should worry less about YouTube and more about their own performance. Do you really think that the lay people you will meet out there in the real world have nothing better to do than spend every waking hour pouring over YouTube to find out how magicians do "things" just in case they should ever bump into a magcian who wants to show them an ACR? To use an Americanism - get over it.

The only people who watch exposure videos on YouTube are magicians worrying about exposure, the really bad "magicians" who actually post the videos, and friends of the really bad "magicians" who laugh at the videos and say their friend is probably gay. Oh and 12 year old kids who are "into" magic for the next 3 days and want to know some secrets before moving onto their next big thing. Nobody else cares.

by **Beaye** » Sep 8th, '07, 02:07

They say that they wont edit magic info because its "information" and thats got to be free and available. What ridiculous rational idealism

I bet they don't tell you how to make nerve gas and other weapons.
Why??? because someone will get hurt. but this information is hurting our artform.......

I'd like to cut and restore a noose around their necks or french drop them off a cliff.

:evil:

Just cause a guy does magic, it doesn't mean he can't kick some ass.

Beaye

by **dimabbq** » Oct 19th, '07, 23:38

I once introduced someone to magic as i thought they would be a keen and devoted learner yet after giving tips and a couple of secrets they got bored of magic and ruined it for others on the way.
How the hell are you supposed to hone skills with others when there are scum like him?

As for YouTube, i honestly have no problem with basic techniques to start people off on magic because that is how i started. What annoys me the most is how people post full length routines up there for the "i've seen that one on YouTube"-idiots who miss the point of magic and performing altogether.

by **kheard** » Oct 30th, '07, 12:08

I've signed it! I just hope they take some notice!

by **joecarr14** » Nov 8th, '07, 21:05

i have but i have to agree with freddie that it wont make much difference... :/

by **MrSvengali** » Nov 24th, '07, 05:52

Yes I know the owner of MagicVideoDepot. We did a few concept designs for his website logo in a recent competition.

I'm glad to see that we are all in it together to abolish (or reduce) magic exposure.

by **Magic-al-brighton** » Dec 19th, '07, 20:32

just signed it, i didnt read it first though so i hope i havnt just signed my house away!! lol

by **crozboz** » Jan 13th, '08, 13:47

My question is where is the fine line between people blatantly exposing tricks, and explaining how to do them, and the poor kid that tried it a couple of times then recorded it badly so it shows how to do it? Thats the same isnt it?

I signed it to mark the 1 year anniversary of it coming to this forum!

by **xxjustinukxx** » Jan 18th, '08, 16:46

This sounds like a step in the right direction!

I've signed it!

by **dc2222** » Feb 2nd, '08, 22:46

Done and dusted

by **Whalemeister** » Feb 5th, '08, 14:07

You can add my name to the list too.

It is a tricky thing though as (mentioned here several times) there is a very thin line between an effect performed so badly that it 'tips the gaff' and shows how it's done, but it's a step towards getting rid of the blatant 'this is how it's done' vids that really irritate me