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Anyone else watch this and find themselves pleasantly surprised at the impractical methods that were 'given away' only to be followed by a more convincing and practical performance?

Also does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Copentro Deluxe style coin thingy built into a table?

Yeah the shoe one has got me puzzled too, I like to think I can work out pretty much anything done with cards and coins and stuff, (I can't believe they did the card in window with a picture message and two assistants!) but once it gets out of the hands I do find it a little more difficult, perhaps Seige has some ideas he might share with us in a more private area?

ok, I'm another one who can't quite figure out the shoe!

I enjoyed the show, and if it gets people talking about magic then its done its job.

not sure the whole celebrity thing works very well, but top marks to the bbc for giving it a go.... also thought the camera work gave the magicians a lot of help... who needs misdirection when you have the camera, pan in pan out..

Video'd this and watched it last night.

Laugh - I nearly split my jeans. The tricks were awful - and the 'real' magical performances were pretty second-rate.

The shoe effect is something that you can easily perform yourself.

There would be three methods:

1: Stooge with duplicate shoe already on train
2: Guy not yet on train - slow moving train coming in to platform easy to hop on once platform number is disclosed (if you're brave enough) - shoe could then be lobbed through window by assistant.
3: There is a time delay - purported 'technical' hitch, where filming is stopped and scene is set up. Spectator suspects nothing - film edited for TV.

You can do an almost identical trick on a smaller scale at a bus station.
The clues are in the delays - with a crew on standby, as soon as the chick reveals the platform, they've got loads of time.

Unfortunately, I too am hooked.

The whole thing could have been improved immensely by using celebs who actually TRIED to guess. It was a set up, surely.

Also - if the effects were performed by credible artists, the whole show could have been a lot more entertaining. The old 'coins pressed out of foil' routine certainly was my favourite of the lot. It was genuine, up-close and less susceptible to jiggerypokery.

I've never been a great fan of big-stage effects, because the mechanical aspect takes away the performer's skill - and most of the time, there's nothing to do but just let the props work for you.

I thought about lobbing the shoe through a window but assumed that the assistant would see, but come to think of it though the guy did lift the silk pretty much in front of her face, and there was no reason why she would be looking behind him when he 'still had' her shoe in his hands. Nice one!

I would say that the foil coins were nice for that setting, but they'd be hard to carry around in a normal closeup setting, they would get srushed and lose their coinyness.

The French dude was seemingly using a shell.
Oh, and a Raven, too. Did you spot him loading the Raven before the final vanish???

Nice routine, though.

Pile of cack.
Who is this Simone girl? Reminded me of the baddy girl from Octopussy (the one who 'fell' out of the window). She was dreadful. (Let me just blow suggestively on this item to get the magic to happen)

Did anyone, laymen or not, actually believe their 'secrets'? I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when they were coming up with 'plausible' explanations for the illusions.
The BBC have made the usual mistake of putting too much emphasis on the presenters and too little on content.

They should ditch the celebrities, that 'Aussie' bloke, Simone and the 'French' guy and just have Danny and John doing tricks, then use an explanation that doesn't reveal too much, then doing it again the proper way. Just my opinion. I liked the idea, just not the way they presented it.

Bug

P.S apologies for all the 'speech marks', i thought it was needed.

bugnote wrote:(Let me just blow suggestively on this item to get the magic to happen)

Hmmm...

Maybe she's magic in other ways...

I think you've hit the nail on the head... with the last comment.

I have a VERY similar gimmick, which is in the style of a sort of continental lager glass - you know, with the fluted mouth?

It works almost identically - although I wonder how he had the coins 'stacked' - my device lets the coins fall any which-way... maybe it was fluke?

Still, this was the highlight of the show for me, personally...
(Apart from Simone's suggestive blowing, of course)

The appearance in the glass looked to me exactly like an effect which sells at studio9 for about £85 and is called Copentro Deluxe, but this is usually done with a wooden stand on which the glasses are placed, my guess is that the mechanism was built into the table rather than a stand.
To back up this idea the glasses used were identical in shape and scale to the ones that come with Copentro Deluxe.

Well I enjoyed it anyway, especially the outrageous device under the table
mmmmmm?
I wonder if anyone sells it Packs Big , plays small
One Trick "pile of old" Pony table
any offers

I was completely taken in by the foil coins.....