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i prefer to use a raven but using it with the bats set up, i think it's easier set up this way and just as clean.some of the determining factors for what one is right for you depends on what you wish to accomplish with it. the noise factor with raven is illiminated if you use the bats set up. i use mine to shrink a coin, vanish a coin,find my "key"card,and melt a signed quarter thru a glass table
the last effect mentioned is very much a chris angel style effect and this effect alone has earned me a reputation as being as good as chris angel. I don't say this about myself for one thing it isn't true, but if they feel that I'm that good and choose to tell others that I am all the better for me. My point is no matter if you choose a raven or a bat, and as said by previous posters it comes down to a matter of personal preference and what effects you want to accomplish, but no matter your choice the effects that can be accomplished with either of these utilities can be so effective.you will get the reactions you love to get if you put a small amount of time in the handling of either of these gimmicks. even knowing the secret just watching it in action it still looks like real magic.I lost mine once I had to replace it immediately it is one of my favorite secrets and I refuse to be without one. not everyone loves or uses their raven or bat as much as I do,but I promise you if you perfect the illusions that can be done with these gimmicks
you will get people talking about how good a magician you are.