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by **Tomo** » Mon May 14, 2007 10:45 am

Mandrake wrote:Just to stir the pot a little, don't forget that Theo Annemann released a book of 202 Methods of Forcing!

I'll see your 202 and raise you Lewis Jones' 500!

by **IAIN** » Mon May 14, 2007 10:53 am

Tomo wrote:
Mandrake wrote:Just to stir the pot a little, don't forget that Theo Annemann released a book of 202 Methods of Forcing!

I'll see your 202 and raise you Lewis Jones' 500!

amen brother, amen...

best book you'll ever buy on the subject - if you can still buy it that is...

by **TheLondonI** » Mon May 14, 2007 11:38 am

In Jay Sankeys XL DVD he teaches some great forces and you get a great trick in buying it.

by **crozboz** » Mon May 14, 2007 8:48 pm

TheLondonI wrote:In Jay Sankeys XL DVD he teaches some great forces and you get a great trick in buying it.

They all use the force card on the top though.

Just wondering. Ive had a quick look around, but my internet is too slow for me to try harder. Can anyone find where to get Lewis Jones "The Encyclopedia of Card Forces".

Apparently, it was printed in 1994, and only 300 copies were ever made! Oh great. Top dollar (or pound, whatever), is it really worth it?

by **Tomo** » Mon May 14, 2007 9:39 pm

crozboz wrote:Just wondering. Ive had a quick look around, but my internet is too slow for me to try harder. Can anyone find where to get Lewis Jones "The Encyclopedia of Card Forces".

Apparently, it was printed in 1994, and only 300 copies were ever made! Oh great. Top dollar (or pound, whatever), is it really worth it?

Well, it is complete, so I'd say it's worth it, and it contains very detailed notes and ideas on all the forces. It's £35 from Alakazam, which is pricey, but if you are a developer it's well worth having access to all that gen.

by **crozboz** » Mon May 14, 2007 10:09 pm

linky?

by **TheLondonI** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:09 pm

crozboz wrote:
TheLondonI wrote:In Jay Sankeys XL DVD he teaches some great forces and you get a great trick in buying it.

They all use the force card on the top though.

They don't, there's like 8 different handlings to the effect, and he shows a different force for each, the cards aren't just forced from the top.

by **pAdDed ceLL** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:17 pm

I noticed several comments about not buying MM products. And one person (sorry, didn't remember who said what) mentioned it might be unethical. I don't know all the ins and outs yet of 'E'-purchasing magic material. But why is MM unethical? I don't want to support anything unethical.

by **Mandrake** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:33 pm

MM had a reputation for copying effects and tricks invented by others. There's a website somewhere which shows the original and the MM copies side by side.

by **TheLondonI** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:53 am

In the Gregory Wilson Lecture I went to he warned about magic makers and said how they have ripped off quite a few of his products, I think he said foreign affair was one of them.

by **crozboz** » Sat May 19, 2007 10:27 am

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me, any chance someone could send me the link to Lewis Jones' Encyclopedia etc. on alakazam, i cant find it.

by **bananafish** » Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am

Lewis Jones' EncyclopediaIf the likes of Tomo and Abraxus are recommending it, then it is good enough for me. It will get added to my CUPS List

by **crozboz** » Sat May 19, 2007 12:01 pm

Im tempted myself, ive got some money coming in tomorrow, just enough... food, or the book? hmm.

by **Mandrake** » Sat May 19, 2007 12:29 pm

Buy the book, learn from it, go out and do stunning magic for lots of money, then you can get someone else to cook and serve your food - and clear up afterwards

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by **crozboz** » Sat May 19, 2007 12:31 pm

Ha ha, excellent, its already on order, that sounds like a plan. Will do.

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