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And on a very different tack, I ordered Bang On yesterday and it arrived this morning. The postman even arrived a couple of hours earlier than he usuallly does! How the hell does Marc do it??

seige wrote:Folks...

Can we get back to the actual subject of discussion, rather than the general psychology of performance?

Perhaps if this is such a great talking point, a separate thread is needed....

I thought the actual subject of discussion was a review of the Bang On wallet. How well the product plays compared to others is an essential part of any review.

Copyright, I agree fully, but there's a sub-directional discussion going on in parallel here which I was suggesting may warrant being continued in it's own thread.

I badgered a fellow mage into buying this at the weekend, mainly cos I wanted to see how it worked. My suspicions were more or less confirmed, and I'm glad I didn't pay for it myself.

That said it is an excellent effect but I'm unsure as to how Marc justifies the cost. You don't get anything super clever in the way of gimmicks, in fact you have to make some of it up yourself. There's plenty of other cheaper ways of obtaining the same effect in the eyes of a lay person. Perhaps if it was £40 it would be more worth a look.

Ha, nice, i was talked into buying it from this review. Azaming. It's so bleeding obvoius. Yet another miracle from Marc Oberon. He does over charge a bit. Still - worth it for the idea itself.

Sorry chaps but I have to totally disagree with all this 'overcharging/poor value' talk! To explain exactly why the price is justified would be to reveal the secret but you are getting substantial, good quality equipment and a method that really does play as smoothly, quickly and effortlessly as it appears.

Bang on for the money IMHO!

The value issue is delicate in magic. I don't own this effect but from what I hear it's gold... When I hear it's too expensive or not worth the money, I wonder, what does everyone think of stage magicians' apparatus such as vanishing chests and rigged cages, tables, etc. These things sell for thousands of dollars! (Yet they're still used all the time!)

I can't believe this thread is still going strong. I bought this and oddball two weeks ago on the back of the reviews here and am dissapointed with neither one.

I closed a set at a recent competition in front of many magicians, apparently as an afterthought. most were stunned and while a few knew of the effect and what I had parted with 70 quid for, they still could not work out exactly how this worked out "bang on" every time.

This has effectively replaced my ID in terms of pocket space, however, I do still have 3rd degree burn as a final kicker for the difficult spec who proclaims loudly "but I was thinking of a different card, the eight of spades, what now smartar$e?". That is when I show them just what is now.
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Just to clarify, bang on is the mutts nyuts!

azraelws6 wrote:The value issue is delicate in magic. I don't own this effect but from what I hear it's gold... When I hear it's too expensive or not worth the money, I wonder, what does everyone think of stage magicians' apparatus such as vanishing chests and rigged cages, tables, etc. These things sell for thousands of dollars! (Yet they're still used all the time!)

If value is judge purely in terms of money, then the question is really how much you'll need to spend on alternatives. If you could get a vanishing chest for half the price of one reviewed then financial value becomes and issue.

Having said that if something very cheap like a TT, or a prop I bought recently (but much too selfish to share ) for under 20 quid, were considered in terms of overall value, the price paid is absolute peanuts.

I saw marc perform this last year at the international magic close up competition and quite rightly won first place. Whilst I'm not a huge fan of his style (he kinda reminds me of a chap from an old sitcom set in an old peoples home, cant remember it's name (what a pointless sentence lol)), I think his actual effects are top notch.
Anyhow, I start work for a gambling company next month performing at their trade shows and think this would be a superb opener. Imagine as people walk past the endless displays, passing buxom girls in teeny bikinis and sleezy salesmen trying to lure them in you call out "excuse me sir, name a card!" However bored of their surroundings they reply "3 of clubs" you pull it out of your wallet and over they come. Five minutes of magic then you pass them onto the sleezy salesman. Fantastic attention grabber.
I have a question though before I part with any money which I'm hoping someone may be able to answer without giving anything away. Part of my routine in this type of environment involves working with an assassin wallet. Obviously I wont be wanting to be pulling out 2 different wallets in the space of 5 minutes so is Bang on supplied with its own, very integral to the trick, wallet? I'm assuming it is which will ruin my plans or mean a major re-think to my routine.

he kinda reminds me of a chap from an old sitcom set in an old peoples home, cant remember it's name (what a pointless sentence lol

I think I know who you mean - Harvey off Waiting for God?

copyright wrote:

he kinda reminds me of a chap from an old sitcom set in an old peoples home, cant remember it's name (what a pointless sentence lol

I think I know who you mean - Harvey off Waiting for God?

Thats the one Been trying to remember the name for ages. Thanks

ed crawford wrote:Anyhow, I start work for a gambling company next month performing at their trade shows and think this would be a superb opener...

I can just imagine it will be a fantastic way to get all the attention of somebody that would otherwise walk by.
Just to sum up what has been going on the 8 pages of discussion about Bang On:

The ones that have been negative and sceptical, are all individuals that don't have Bang On.

But the ones that are positive and content, are the ones that actually bought Bang On, tried it and have experianced how gobsmacking the effect actually is.

It's as simple as that

Hope you have good success at the trade show Ed!
(With or without Bang On)

I'm pleased o say that I had worked out the method before I bought Bang On. But only pleased in so much as I can pat myself on the back for being a smarty-pants.

But if I were to add up the cost of buying all the necessary mcgubbins to make this work, it would almost certainly work out much more than the £70 price tag. Plus, for that price you get a tried and tested working, which has been fine tuned and polished more than any DIY job I put together could be.

I'm a happy boy

I got mine today and the iwife was floored (her words).

I know I have only had it a day but I dare not do it in the real world yet, to get it smooth is quite tricky can anyone assure me this comes with time.

I am fine up to a point then sometimes its not so easy. Hopefully those that have this know what I mean?