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themagicwand wrote:...Boy, I can talk when I want to can't I?

At least you're interesting and informative. Are you related to Craig by any chance?

Bicycle808 wrote:

themagicwand wrote:...Boy, I can talk when I want to can't I?

At least you're interesting and informative. Are you related to Craig by any chance?

I often wonder if I may be his demon offspring.

I think we are going to get on well wand you are my kind of magician / psychic

"Genuine psychic" - aaah! Another oxymoron!

Lord Freddie wrote:"Genuine psychic" - aaah! Another oxymoron!

Your negative vibes are distrupting my psychic energy.

themagicwand wrote:

Lord Freddie wrote:"Genuine psychic" - aaah! Another oxymoron!

Your negative vibes are distrupting my psychic energy.

Let's all hug a tree to dispense with these bad vibes. Aaaaah!
That'll be £50 please....

you're twisting my psychic melon man...

apparently, on my mum's side, theres a fair few old cockney type tarot and tea-leaf psychics...when i used to do bizarre late night gigs, i'd always open with that little comment, and say thats how i got into the whole thing, and found out i could do what they did and more...

i was left certain "artifacts" too...

kinda miss that side of things in some ways, now that im an experimentalist...

I mentioned in another thread (or was it this thread?) about doing a centre tear routine the other night. The idea is that the spec writes down their "happy place" and I draw a picture of it. The girl wrote "Dad". I gulped hard, carried on, made a big show of the revelation (simply wrote DAD in big letters on the paper). The girl was firstly stunned into silence, then whispered "Look at that!" to her friends, then ran out of the room crying. A friend went with her. I carried on with my routine, the girl returned (she was fine), but later on a friend of hers asked if what had happened had been genuine or "a trick". I was worried that if I said it was just a trick this would belittle the girl's experience, or would take away from her what perhaps she perceived as some kind of sign from her dad. So I said that it was genuine but perhaps not in the way that they thought. I said there are certain techniques that I use, and that psychic ability isn't really like you see on the TV or in films, it's more subtle than that and one has to study for a long time to be able to put the techniques into practice. This explanation seemed to satisfy them.

It was actually an awesome demonstration of how strong mentalism can be, and I'm not at all struggling with any ethical dilemas. I was just wondering how others might have handled the situation or if others have had similar experiences. I've had similar things with readings, but never with a centre tear!

I've had similar experiences, you can only do whats morally right cant you...i just said the same as i would to a friend, they'd lost a parent (dont wont to go into details):

"just so long as you remember that they are truly a part of you, and you can let go of the pain when you're ready, 'cos they remain with you in a positive sense...happiness, love and future hapiness..."

along those lines at least, i also have a little chat with them afterwards, just to make sure they dont fall foul of living their life by what the tarot says...thankfully its only happened twice to me...

i think the bottom line is, just treat them as you would one of your friends and you're fine...

When I have demonstrated "psychic" abilities to friends who believe in such things as it were, they won't accept it when I say that it's no different from the card trick I showed them before. They try and tell me that I was so accurate that I must have genuine psychic ability and not know it!
If people want to believe in something, they will. Particularly if they see something they can't explain which backs up their beliefs.

Hello

Yes, we were away for a few days at my youngest daughter's wedding and we also took the chance for a quick holiday. We are back in the office now and firing on all cylinders dealing with a backlog of work. The price of running your own business...

My system has been used by myself and my own readers plus many others at corporate events, private parties and psychic fairs. In my book Black Book Three (Tales of a Wandering Tarot Reader) I explain how to read in many different types of situation.

I have read for tarot 'virgins' and for experienced readers and everything inbetween and I have never had a problem with someone questioning the 'meanings' of the cards. All readers have different interpretations in anycase. It is the interpretatiion that counts. In my book I explain that you should do the readings as though the 'predictions' and 'information' is comming from YOU, the cards are a mere conduit.

Be confident and above all be ENTERTAINING and you can not go wrong.

Also remember if you buy the tarot course and you don't agree that it orks you can send it back within 90m days and we will give you your money back.

Keith Hart

I received mine last week. So far I have only had time to "dip in" to it but I must endorse what has been said about what a great system this is. This is my fourth Tarot book and I have just not got to grips with the meanings. This offers a learning system which is just - well "learnable".

I know that simplifying learning the Tarot will not seem satisfactory to the purists but for someone who wants to get a grip of meanings so that they can progress with the presentation of the reading this is just first rate.

Coming as it does with a quality set of Mareilles Tarots this is excellent value as well as being a terrific tutorial.

Thanks Black Hart

Just got the rune kit. A full review is coming soon.. This is one HOT product!

themagicwand wrote:

stephenmagic wrote:What started as a simple review has got very esoteric

We're a very esoteric bunch! There also seems to be a few people on TM with a real passion for readings and for "the" cards, which is great to see.

What is even more grand to notice is that this thread isn't being ripped apart by a bunch of cynical elitist types trying to poop on this parade.

I've brought up or addressed this topic time and again on other forums only to be skinned alive as the result of general arrogance coupled with ignorance as to what it is we do. Then we have the "Readings for the sake of entertainment" line that crops up...

Paul is coming from the old school of thought on this one and I applaud him!

I wish I had caught this thread previously in that the discussion between Paul and LordFreddie brings out an interesting set of perspectives when it comes to learning the Tarot and becoming a solid Reader... either position being on mark in that one needs to know the analytical meaning of the cards IN THEIR CHOSEN DECK... it will differ to some degree from deck to deck even though the body of the generic (typically Rider-Waite) meaning will typically be accepted. Then you have the fact that card position, the number of Major Arcana vs. Minor or even the number of each suit bring meaning -- refinement as it were, to the message.

Yet, as LordFreddie has suggested, going with your gut and how you can associate with the cards and more importantly, how you can apply what you see in these pictures to your patron is JUST AS important. Either discipline has its strengths but the value comes from learning how to use the two in conjunction to one another + the other elements that will be present during the sitting.

If you do not know the "language" of the cards then you WILL come off as being one that sees their patrons as fools... not a good thing if you want to work steadily in the shut-eye market. There are NO short cuts... there are various techniques for learning the cards and learning how to present a Reading but when it comes to learning anything in life and excelling at it, you can't take short-cuts and expect long-term positive results. You actually have to make an investment of personal time and effort along side the realization that it is an on-going course of discipline.

Craig Browning wrote:If you do not know the "language" of the cards then you WILL come off as being one that sees their patrons as fools... not a good thing if you want to work steadily in the shut-eye market. There are NO short cuts... there are various techniques for learning the cards and learning how to present a Reading but when it comes to learning anything in life and excelling at it, you can't take short-cuts and expect long-term positive results. You actually have to make an investment of personal time and effort along side the realization that it is an on-going course of discipline.

This is how I feel about this book. I am not looking for a short cut and am pleased that Craig doesn't see it as such. This for me is a learning method. Having learned the meaning of the cards I can practice reading and try to become good enough to actually start reading.

This is a way of learning the meanings. Once I have that basic knowledge I will go back to some of my other books to put the flesh on the bones.

But whichever way you look at it IMHO this is a very good starting point