EXTREME BURN - Richard Sanders

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Postby Chris » Apr 11th, '08, 12:36



I take this is possible with U.K money ?

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Postby taffy » Apr 11th, '08, 13:14

Sure is!

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Postby dat8962 » Apr 13th, '08, 19:50

Everyone that I spoekn with that bought this has siad that they're very happy with their. I must be the only one who doesn't like it that much :cry:

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Postby jacko » Apr 14th, '08, 19:12

I have a question for those UK folks who have this. Mine came this morning and I am keen to get some time to set it all up. But given the issue with the size of UK notes, I wondered how best people had found to make the transformation. Plain paper to money is the obvious route, but I have concerns over the plain paper getting grubby with constant handling and I have another concern about plain paper which may give too much away about the method. If anyone has this could they pm me and I can be a bit more explicit. Has anyone tried with US currency over here and if so how did that go down?

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Postby dat8962 » Apr 14th, '08, 20:51

All of the people that I've seen using this with UK money, including Ricahrd Sanders himself have used magazine cuttings.

This is mainly because the paper is glossy and wears much better and of course, the UK notes are all different sizes.

I've not seen anyone doing a foreign note to UK note routine as there are dozens and dozens of foreign notes that are the same size as UK notes or could be slightly trimmed without anyone recognising this.

I was looking through a memorabilia shop a few weeks ago in Warwick and they had books and books of foreign notes for around 50p each. I bought Vietnamese 50 dong notes which are the same size as fivers specifically for bill changes. Well worth taking a look around.


BTW - I think that 50 dong worked out at about an eight of a penny :lol: so you could say that 50p each is a mega markup :shock:

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Postby itsamagicthing » Apr 15th, '08, 01:37

This is a very nice effect indeed but I dont think it has the impact that it should have if we were all living in the good old US of A.

The idea is great (not new though) and a real jaw dropper but I just dont find the fact of turning paper into money that exciting. (perhaps its just me). Bills into other higher value bills would please most Americans (lets face it, the effect is really for that market) but why would we want to change money into magazine pieces or vice a versa.

I think Sanders is great but just because of the limits with our currancy it falls a bit flat. But dont let it put you off.... It is very nice and really not to hard to do.

Guess i am just looking at things from a laymans eyes.

Great trick though, and if i am in the USA anytime soon, it will be right up there..

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Postby Deshi » Apr 15th, '08, 13:19

It would be nice if we had the same sized notes as the US does, but i don't think it loses anything in the eyes of the spec. First thing is they have no reference for the trick and it means nothing to them that it could have been one dollar notes to twenty etc.

Also if you use some nice brightly coloured magazine cuts then it becomes a very strong visual change. As dollars are all the same colour it's almost like doing a card change from a jack of clubs to a king of clubs where as with the magazine it's more like four of clubs to queen of hearts.

It's just a different presentation, either is as strong as the other from a laypersons point of view.

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Postby Kevin Cann » Apr 18th, '08, 15:09

[quote="itsamagicthing"]This is a very nice effect indeed but I dont think it has the impact that it should have if we were all living in the good old US of A. [quote]

I actually think the best changes on the DVD were using the Euros as the value changes AND the colour changes from red to green notes which looks really nice.

Also to comment on the question earlier about using one of the notes for a TT bill switch - you could, but you couldn't then reintroduce the bill to the extreme burn notes as it would have been multi-folded and wouldn't then lie flat against the rest of the notes which might cause some problems

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Postby GeordieJester » May 19th, '08, 13:24

I have recently tried this with blank pieces of white paper, but because of the nature of the supplied gimmick it is too obvious.

I will re-make with magazine cuttings and give it another go.

Without giving anything away ,does anyone else also have a problem with a bit of a "ridge" visible in the setup.

apart from the 50 dong note, has anyone else found a note that is exactly the same size as a fiver (I can't afford to tie up more than £30!) ?

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Postby big-dan » May 21st, '08, 21:45

I now the basic principle behind this effect but have decided against purchasing it just because its not practical for me right now, but i did come up with a way of presenting it using UK notes that is logical:

Use cheques, then you can use a number of ideas. A new way of carrying around money. I just carry blank cheques around with but as soon i sign one of them, look, they all turn into £10 notes. Or can i borrow a tenner sir? Hold on i'll give you a personal cheque just in case something goes wrong and i uh destroy your note. Oh thats right I'm a magician, watch, there we go, five ten pound notes, but i'll put them away and use your one, its just more fun that way!! :D

Lots of ideas for a good presentation. I didn't have any notes to check against the size of my cheques, because i am poor, hence why i decided not to buy this trick, i can't afford the other expense of having 40 or 50 quid invested in one trick, i'd end up spending them and just being left with the gimmick!

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Postby GeordieJester » May 29th, '08, 14:06

Still experimenting with this.

I made up a gimmick with American Dollars (6 one dollars from M&S for £3 ish!) and lottery ticket entry cards.

I am getting quite a lot of grief with the contrast being visible at the edges. Without giving anything away, does anyone have any tips. Would it work if I just make all, bar one, inserted notes shorter so that they can be hidden away better in the gimmick.

hmmmm

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Extreme Burn

Postby Waldorfcartoons » Jun 6th, '08, 06:50

Extreme Burn is a very good trick, well explained. I'm not sure it's my style but I think it will work best with real UK money and magazine clippings. I'd be suspicious of monopoly money; it would beg the question, "why isn't he using real money?"

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Postby dat8962 » Jun 6th, '08, 19:25

Dear dear me.

First post and already breaking the site rules. Expect to have your post edited very soon! :roll:

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Postby big-dan » Jul 20th, '08, 19:14

I have actually got this DVD for my birthday, although it hasn't arrived yet, was out of stock or something. But i had a question. I thought that for me the best way to present extreme burn would be something like this:

The magician brings out a money clip which has a bunch of magazine clippings inside the clip. The magician explains that Brighton is getting pretty rough these days and he likes to use magic for extra security. He asks if anyone was to mug him would they really want a bunch of old magazine clippings? The magician shows the clippings and then changes them into 4 £10 notes, telling everyone its the perfect way to keep your money safe. He re-clips the money and puts it back in his pocket and proceeds with his next effect.

My question is if you could use a money clip to hold the notes/clippings together or would this foul the gimmick is some way? I only ask because i am placing an order on amazon today and i saw a really nice money clip with 4 aces on it which would be really cool!

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Postby doyler35 » Jul 29th, '08, 19:14

Hi, I have a quick question about this effect.

Its advertised as changing 5 bills of one denomination to 5 of another. My question is this...is the number relevant? Or could the effect be used using less bills?

The reason I ask is that whenever I would preform it, I would need 5 bills, and not being an American this would mean a minimum of 25quid set aside for doing this effect repeatedly. Costly, plus really impractical as I never actually have 5 bills of the same denomination. :)

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