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Postby goodismyname » Sep 1st, '08, 03:06



Just got on a fight Friday with a Punk@$$ skater kid in the locker room. Why I am telling you all this I don't know....

Anyways we were in the locker room doin' our stuff when he started singing this annoying song (he was trying to be annoying on purpuse). So I told him to stop it.

He comes up to me and pushes me. I push him back...This goes on for a little bit and he tries to punch me. I grab his wrist as he tries to punch me. He tries to punch me with his other hand and I grab that wrist also.

He tries to get out of my "wrist control" but of course I'm stronger than him (I'm a wrestler) and instead of knocking the c*** (not the best) out of him, I look him in the eye and tell him a couple times "I'm not going to fight you".

I push him off me and then he pushes me and walks away. A bunch of people gathered around him saying "Don't mess with him he's a wrestler". :P

Anyways my friend told me "Whenever he get's beat in a fight he gathers up all his buddies and the next day beats the c*** (not the best) out of the person that beat him in the beginning".

So here I am waiting for Tuesday, wondering what's going to happen. I know I could beat him in a 1-on-1 fight mayber even a 1-2 fight but surely not a 1-3+ fight.

You guys got any tips? Any fight stories? I don't want to tell the teacher.

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Postby Ian The Magic-Ian » Sep 1st, '08, 03:11

I'm clueless to these situations. I do tae kwon do, have been for 5 years, I've never been in a real fight though.

My best advice is just avoid him stay with a group of friends.

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Postby magicdiscoman » Sep 1st, '08, 03:23

if he brings his mates tell him he's a coward and a punk and no mater what his mates do to you, he'll always carry the yellow stain of cowardiss and his mates have long memories.

when i was growing up in scotland if you had a beaf with someone you took turns hiting each other till one could not stand or gave up, none of this mamby pamby i made your nose bleed I win crud we had at english boarding school.

best answer is to avoid the problem all together, failing that bring your own mates and challange his manhood as above. :P

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Postby Lenoir » Sep 1st, '08, 08:48

I say, the WHOLE of TM marches into your school and kicks the living S*** out of him. Magicians unite :lol:

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Postby Lawrence » Sep 1st, '08, 08:49

Politely inform him that his fence is not 4 foot high! :lol:

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Postby themagicwand » Sep 1st, '08, 09:17

Lawrence wrote:Politely inform him that his fence is not 4 foot high! :lol:

Yeah, pull a funny face and start dribbling.

Or do a coin vanish, tell him you do voodoo, and that if anyone touches you you'll put a hex on them so strong it'll take a witch doctor a month to shift it.

Or run away.

Or have one of those appearing cane things and whack the cr*p out of them with it. Then make it disappear and say "Now that's magic."

Or apologise to him. That'd take the wind out of his sails. Then beat him up when he's not expecting it. That's the mafia-style option.

Or snitch to a teacher or your parents or the police. Do you have a local copper? Ask his advice. Hopefully he'll pay a home visit to your nemesis. That might put the fear of god into him.

Your options are endless. Personally I favour the voodoo curse followed by the running away.

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Postby TheAlkhemist07 » Sep 1st, '08, 09:23

This may sound strange but, run, when the fastest catches up with you, hit him, an continue.

It changes the dynamic, giving you the heads up.

Of course if they dont follow, it falls flat on its buttocks.

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Postby Lenoir » Sep 1st, '08, 10:48

TheAlkhemist07 wrote:This may sound strange but, run, when the fastest catches up with you, hit him, an continue.

It changes the dynamic, giving you the heads up.

Of course if they dont follow, it falls flat on its buttocks.


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Postby Replicant » Sep 1st, '08, 10:52

It sounds like this guy and his cronies are just a cowardly group of bullies. I know you said you don't want to tell anyone, but I think it's important that you tell an adult, whether a parent or a teacher. Once this escalates to physical violence, you're in dangerous territory. Try to avoid situations where you're alone for long periods; walk home from school with friends if you can. You've done well to avoid a fight in the locker room, but you can't run forever and if this guy has got it in for you, then this is just the start.

I realise this is easier said than done, but try to act assertively in his presence and be confident around him. Bullies are usually jealous of you for whatever reason and will single you out because, perhaps, you are different to others in some way. As I said, you should tell a responsible adult about this before it gets really serious for you. I'm sure your school must have an anti-bullying policy in place and it's important that you realise that you are not grassing or snitching on anyone; no doubt there are others in your school who are in the same position as you, but are not fortunate enough and have the confidence to be able to defend themselves, as you are. By informing a teacher of this situation, you are doing your part in helping them, too.

Do the right thing here - tell someone and nip this in the bud before someone gets seriously hurt.

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Postby Tomo » Sep 1st, '08, 11:17

Ah, you've fallen into his trap. In order of adrenaline pumping, here are some solutions to the problem.

"Kill the shepherd and the sheep will scatter", as Hunter S. Thompson once wrote. In other words, hit the biggest one immediately and without provocation, then scream at the rest of them, "Which one of you bitches wants to dance next?!" Point at the smallest and scream "You? Are you next?" while advancing towards him quickly. His natural reaction will be to step back. Your defence, should the teachers find out, is that they came looking for you to fight you. It was self defence, and you're the injured party. See also the final solution below.

...or...

You could put serious doubt into his friends' minds by yelling angrily in his face that HE was the initiator of the aggression, he did it on purpose to see his so-called friends beat up a stranger for his amusement. HE doesn't care how badly hurt they get. Do they not feel used by HIM, that HE'S lied to them? What kind of sick pervert does that to his FRIENDS? (Note the emphasis) Smash something up - preferably your own property - to show that you're mad as hell and REALLY up for a rumble. Try to finish with some sort of impromptu weapon in your hand made from something you've smashed up, and brandish it. It usually gets the message across very well.

...or...

Avoid the stupid sod until you can get him alone, get him into your wrist control and explain in very plain terms that you're a lot bigger than he is and that his friends can't protect him forever. If you can drop in a few notes about his movements it usually puts the fear of God into his kind.

...or...

Angrily barge into the staff room and demand that you shouldn't have to face such aggression, that the school has a burden of care and that if it doesn't do something about it RIGHT NOW, you will... You're not running to teacher - you're demanding your rights by way of an ultimatum!

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Postby themagicwand » Sep 1st, '08, 11:29

Tomo wrote:Ah, you've fallen into his trap. In order of adrenaline pumping, here are some solutions to the problem.

"Kill the shepherd and the sheep will scatter", as Hunter S. Thompson once wrote. In other words, hit the biggest one immediately and without provocation, then scream at the rest of them, "Which one of you bitches wants to dance next?!" Point at the smallest and scream "You? Are you next?" while advancing towards him quickly. His natural reaction will be to step back. Your defence, should the teachers find out, is that they came looking for you to fight you. It was self defence, and you're the injured party. See also the final solution below.

...or...

You could put serious doubt into his friends' minds by yelling angrily in his face that HE was the initiator of the aggression, he did it on purpose to see his so-called friends beat up a stranger for his amusement. HE doesn't care how badly hurt they get. Do they not feel used by HIM, that HE'S lied to them? What kind of sick pervert does that to his FRIENDS? (Note the emphasis) Smash something up - preferably your own property - to show that you're mad as hell and REALLY up for a rumble. Try to finish with some sort of impromptu weapon in your hand made from something you've smashed up, and brandish it. It usually gets the message across very well.

...or...

Avoid the stupid sod until you can get him alone, get him into your wrist control and explain in very plain terms that you're a lot bigger than he is and that his friends can't protect him forever. If you can drop in a few notes about his movements it usually puts the fear of God into his kind.

...or...

Angrily barge into the staff room and demand that you shouldn't have to face such aggression, that the school has a burden of care and that if it doesn't do something about it RIGHT NOW, you will... You're not running to teacher - you're demanding your rights by way of an ultimatum!

Now that's what I call Naked Mentalism!

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Postby Part-Timer » Sep 1st, '08, 13:07

There are lots of very good suggestions here. The problem is that, contrary to some advice, bullies do not all act the same.

Some like to see people getting afraid, so if you act completely nonchalant (not dumb insolence), they get bored very quickly.

Others are proper cowards and will back down if you stand up to them (I can almost guarantee that in any bully's entourage most of the hangers-on will definitely be cowards of this sort).

Some are just thugs who like to hurt people. Get someone else involved, hit him harder first, make sure you always have someone watching his back, or whatever technique you need to avoid getting injured. Maybe learn how to do the stepover toehold. That'll stop him skating at least. :wink:

Of all the advice given, I agree first with Replicant's advice to tell an adult. If anything, it might help you if you are later accused of starting it.

I also agree with the discoman's advice should this idiot turn up with a group of his friends. It doesn't matter what they do, this guy is a coward because he couldn't face you one on one. Make sure he knows that. Even if he wins the fight, big deal, he still loses.

Oh, and if he really does 'beat the cr@p out of you', that's a criminal matter, in my opinion.

I also recommend Tomo's idea that you should politely and quietly inform him that his friends can't be hanging around him forever. And that payback is a b!tch.

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Postby Totally Mental » Sep 1st, '08, 13:33

In my younger days I was known for having a scrap or two every now and then.

My advice when outnumbered and cornered (running away is not an option) is to kick the ringleader squarely and firmly in the b*ll*cks as hard as you can.

Once he has hit the floor and is gurgling funny noises the others will back off - if they don't, kick them in the gonads too.

Ooh - and make sure you are wearing a cricket box (nut guard) just in case one of them tries this back on you.

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Postby Mage Tyler » Sep 1st, '08, 19:18

This guy sounds a lot like a bully I dealt with when I was a little younger than you. He was smaller and weaker, but when his friends were around he had a big mouth and very much enjoyed picking on others (mostly me) because it made him feel bigger and stronger.

I have to second this piece of Tomo's advice (though I do very much like the bit about explaining to his friends how he's using them)

Tomo wrote:Avoid the stupid sod until you can get him alone, get him into your wrist control and explain in very plain terms that you're a lot bigger than he is and that his friends can't protect him forever. If you can drop in a few notes about his movements it usually puts the fear of God into his kind.


I came up behind him quietly in a crowd, grabbed his left hand with my left hand and put my right on the base of his neck and dug my fingers in. We had a polite little chat, which is exactly what it looked like to anyone that might have seen.

Never had a problem with him again. Actually, years later and once he quit hanging around that group, he was actually a pretty good guy and we became, if not friends, then at least acquaintances.

Anyway, Good luck.

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Postby IAIN » Sep 1st, '08, 19:35

set fire to him...

buy some of that ridiculously hot chili sauce..and coat his locker in it..

or, pin him to the ground and pour some in his eyes...

many years ago, i would have run up to the biggest one of his crew and headbutted him..and gone postal..

but in reality, cause a mass fuss of it to your principal...

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