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Postby Mandrake » Nov 5th, '09, 10:09



We don't share stuff, go and buy it like normal people have to do!

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Postby IAIN » Nov 5th, '09, 11:37

SpamBot wrote:does anyone have 'A Beginner's Guide to Progressive Anagrams' available to share here without me having to register on the magic cafe and pm the guy?


i know the guy who wrote that, why the hell should anyone give you it without his blessing? and if you're too lazy to do the two things you mentioned...well...

definately not going to be helping you...pffft... :roll:

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Postby daleshrimpton » Nov 5th, '09, 12:12

you know there 's a point. from your past posts regarding torrents, it's worth pointing out that 99% of the people whom have had their work ripped off lately, are good, close personal friends of members of this, and other forums.

With acces to your i.p adress, those people could find out your location, and sue you.And the penalty for piracy isnt small believe me.

So, a word of advice to you and anybody else looking for illegal freebies.....

Dont boast about it, because one day you will get found out.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Nov 5th, '09, 12:18

IAIN wrote:
SpamBot wrote:does anyone have 'A Beginner's Guide to Progressive Anagrams' available to share here without me having to register on the magic cafe and pm the guy?


i know the guy who wrote that, why the hell should anyone give you it without his blessing? and if you're too lazy to do the two things you mentioned...well...

definately not going to be helping you...pffft... :roll:


Oh don't rise to the bait, going by his other posts I suspect that spambot is another sock puppet wind up. :roll:

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Postby the Curator » Nov 5th, '09, 12:45

daleshrimpton wrote:
With acces to your i.p adress, those people could find out your location, and sue you.And the penalty for piracy isnt small believe me.



It's exactly what I'm doing those days. And the penalties are really high. :D :D :D

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Postby Mandrake » Nov 5th, '09, 12:47

We have access to the IP numbers so may be able to help with such information if required....

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Postby Craig Browning » Nov 5th, '09, 19:38

daleshrimpton wrote:you know there 's a point. from your past posts regarding torrents, it's worth pointing out that 99% of the people whom have had their work ripped off lately, are good, close personal friends of members of this, and other forums.

With acces to your i.p adress, those people could find out your location, and sue you.And the penalty for piracy isnt small believe me.

So, a word of advice to you and anybody else looking for illegal freebies.....

Dont boast about it, because one day you will get found out.


Yesterday I had lunch with Loren Tindall (MEVPRO.com) and one of the things we talked about was a certain gent selling this and that product item on eBay... LOTS OF THEM!

Let me give you one example (without getting to item specific); one of the CD sets that was being pirated retails for around $100.00 of which Loren does a very fair split with the creator after costs. In this case the gent (like several in Loren's stable) is a 60+ year old man that uses the income from these products to help cover some of the medical costs he and his wife juggle... others in the group are dealing with stroke and cancer issues and most all of us have a legit NEED for that extra cash. But this gent and others like him ROB US of that money.

Understand, there is a HUGE difference between two friends sharing a copy of something here and there over schmuck's that buy an original with the intent of duplicating it for the sake of personal profit and/or blatant exposure via a Torrent site, etc. I can list hundreds of very well known performers with book copies they've gained via casual horse trades with friends... I'm talking about five or six books a year here and usually amongst the same five or six friends that "hang" with one another. Though it is "technically" wrong, it is very common practice and as I've said in the past, generally innocent in that it's the modern version of lending out a book.

People that mass produce stolen material and especially limited released materials should be shot... but then I'm a victim of these fools and my views are rather bias. :twisted:


When it comes to the whole Progressive Anagram thing or any method used in our business -- THEY'RE SECRETS! They hopefully stay that way as the result of price in that availability has become a bit more than fluid these days. Besides that when it comes to using PA methods with the Zodiac (and as has been pointed out in this thread) there are dozens of methods, it's not just one and even at that there are ways of stepping outside that original formula and totally obfuscating what's going on, so you still wouldn't have your answer even if you got that one particular treatment.

HINT: I'm betting your a strong young lad full of energy so go to the kitchen and grab a couple of big trash bags and spend a couple of hours a day collecting cans, bottles, etc. so you can cash them in and EARN the money you need for buying the books and CDs you think you want. If you actually do this you may learn to value the material enough to not willingly give it away through a file share site or whatever else and that would make you one of the good guys. :wink:

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Postby shanester » Nov 15th, '09, 00:22

Once you've found out about Progressive Anagrams here's a nice way to combine methods and provide you with stronger effects. By the way this isn't my idea- Cicardi published an effect containing this idea in Magick.

Get someone to write down their birthdate and some other piece of personal information eg on a "special" pad (you all know what I'm talking about)
Don't take the pad back-yet

Divine their star sign (PA method) and blow them away (it is truly impossible that you could have seen what they've written)

Take the pad back and put it away (and get the rest of the info)

Realise that you are getting more signals and now slowly divine the personal info.

This combination of methods creates what Bob Cassidy calls a logical disconnect and helps strengthen the overall effect.

All the best

Shanester

PS it doesn't have to be a pad- any type of billet work could be substituted, you just make sure you don't go near that slip until after you've already started getting the info. If the personal info concerns a person, then a bit of cold reading (and intuition) before you gather the info adds yet another layer!

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