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Postby B0bbY_CaT » Aug 17th, '09, 11:13



David Copperfield.

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Postby mark lewis » Aug 19th, '09, 14:52

What about David Copperfield?

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Postby B0bbY_CaT » Aug 20th, '09, 13:19

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Randy wrote:From my point of view, it would seem that there can be Magicians who win awards AND still be very entertaining to audiences (lay people.). Tho from what I have gathered is that it's never 50/50. You can either be an excellent Mechanic or an Excellent Businessman/entertainer (all tho Bill Malone seems to be both.)


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Postby Jon Allen » Aug 20th, '09, 15:49

The vast majority of competition winners are also extremely commercial. For example, David Williamson won the Gold Cups at IBM, is one of the most gifted techinicians and is also one of the most entertaining magicians you are ever lilkely to see.

What can be learned from competition acts are things like timing, routining and structure. These can be applied to any type of act. While you may not wish to copy the entire act from the book there is a lot of stuff that can be taken from it.

There is also a market for more structured close-up performances. Throwing a few tricks together will not suffice. People appreciate seeing a structured act and this enables you to charge more!

Oh, Harry, the Irish convention was at the end of March. Glad you enjoyed the lecture :-) If anyone is going to my International Magic lecture on the 27th, please come and say "Hi".

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Postby Mark Waddington » Aug 20th, '09, 17:17

Jon,

Are you by any chance heading to The Magic Circle HQ for the Mike Vincent night (14th sept)? If so, could I possibly pick up a copy then from you?

Thanks

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Postby Jon Allen » Aug 20th, '09, 23:24

I'm afraid I've had to pull out of the evening :-(

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Postby Mark Waddington » Aug 20th, '09, 23:30

Ah, shame - I'll order my copy through the website then!!

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Postby mark lewis » Aug 21st, '09, 02:08

The Buffalo Jon Allen didn't seem to know anything about "timing, routining and structure"
Of course if that wasn't the Radlett Jon Allen then he didn't win any competition in the first place. So of course you may have a point.
As for David Williamson I have only seen about a minute of him. That was enough for me. I do not approve of loud and noisy American magicians. Even worse than mumbling, devoid-of-personality, quiet British ones.

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Postby Jon Allen » Aug 21st, '09, 02:16

Thanks in advance for the order Mark (W).

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Postby Lenoir » Aug 21st, '09, 14:23

Martin speaks VERY highly of your Professors Nightmare routine! I look forward to seeing you Jon!

"I want to do magic...but I don't want to be referred to as a magician." - A layman chatting to me about magic.
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Postby Harry Guinness » Aug 21st, '09, 16:33

You won't be disappointed. It fooled the tits off me! And I saw a look of suprise on the most ancient and cynical of the magicians there.

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Postby Jon Allen » Aug 22nd, '09, 20:48

No pressure then! :wink:

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Postby Mark Waddington » Aug 23rd, '09, 01:50

Shush! I cant get down for the lecture and your not helping matters!!

Ill speak to the committee at Bradford and see if we can get you into our 2010 lecture schedule

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Postby Jon Allen » Aug 25th, '09, 23:13

I'm not sure when a full review might appear on here after the release, but I have heard that Jamy Ian Swiss has reviewed the book for September's issue of Genii.

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Postby mark lewis » Aug 26th, '09, 01:12

Jamy Ian Swiss eh? The blind leading the blind it seems. Or should I say the blind reviewing the blind. I have seen this fellow perform on television and found him overloud and obnoxious. Dreadfully American. Besides he wore too much makeup and kept calling somone "mac" in a most disrespectful manner. I had to reprimand him a year ago for not being able to do the stabbed in the pack trick correctly and he walked off in a huff.

Anyway I now have sound on my computer and will see if the Radlett Jon Allen is any good or if the Buffalo Jon Allen has improved. I am sure they are both bloody awful but I wouldn't anyone to say I had a biased nature so I shall reserve judgement for the moment.

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