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Postby aporia » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:02 pm

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Postby Jacquin » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:38 pm

I find Chris most agreeable and a very good listener. Good dancer as well, he can do any style

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Postby Randy » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:16 pm

Yeah I was watching it the other night and you seemed to be cracking up when you turned him into a real life bobble head. :lol: Tho I felt kind of bad for the guy every time he went under.

It's a good DVD set.

The permosis thing tho. Is he just that suggestible to you, or could literally anybody say something to him and he would comply.
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Postby Jacquin » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:18 pm

Thanks Randy.

Yes I lost it. It is not the first time I have corpsed because of the response of my subject. Glad Ross left it in though.

Regarding the permanosis question I am not sure I should answer that in a public forum. So I guess that gives you your answer. Alakazam here we come

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Postby TargetZero » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:07 pm

I bought this and have been thinking about the Induction and Wake Up.

If one person carries out the Induction on the subject is it possible that another person can give the suggestions and do the Wake Up or would the subject only respond to the person that carried out the original Induction?

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Postby Jacquin » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:05 pm

Perfectly possible. Just tell them that is the case.

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Postby TargetZero » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:44 pm

Thanks Anthony - just something I was curious about.
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Postby Jacquin » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:14 pm

It is a good question. I thought I covered it in the various ways of doing a wake up as I appreciate those who want to keep the hypno covert do not want to blow the cover by doing a overt wake up.

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Postby TargetZero » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:59 pm

I have only watched (Many, many times!!) the Set Piece / Induction at the moment and not the other discs.

I was thinking, if the subject was under and sitting peacefully while I nipped off to the loo (Not that I would leave someone unattended), could some random idiot say something to the subject along the lines of "On the count of 5 you will wake, kiss me and go to the bar and buy me a drink!!"???????
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Postby Randy » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:17 pm

They could (I think). Which is why you'd want to wake them up and start from scratch.

Tho I may be wrong, it may not work as well.
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Postby Infinite » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:53 pm

Hypnosis is not "mind control"

While its true with enough conditioning you could do that the basis of hypnosis is that the mind will protect itself and its own identity.

Meaning of course that the person would WANT to kiss you and go to the bar and buy you a drink.

However there are ways to isolate those occurrences such as locking them into your voice.

In the end it is not irresponsible it is negligent to put someone under and walk away leaving them to their own devices in an unsecured setting.

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Postby Jacquin » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:03 pm

Indeed.

It is possible that this could happen. Unlikely that anyone would find the intent and attitude required to make it work but they might. Do not walk away. If you have to for performance reasons ensure that your voice is the only one they respond to. Give health and safety suggestions. Be vigilant. Tell them how it will be.

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Postby TargetZero » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:48 pm

Thanks - as I mentioned previously I would never leave someone unattended for the obvious reasons - it was a hypothetical question. (I'm a spoilsport by trade - I work in Health and Safety!)
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Postby Randy » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:40 am

I was wondering if you have to do the 1-5 count to fully wake them up. Or could you simply count 1-3 and just say "full of energy, wide awake" etc etc. Also do you have to undo everything even you simply had their arm raise a bit and then fully woke them up after that.
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Postby Jacquin » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:22 am

It is not absolutely necessary. They will return. However for the sake of a few sentances you can ensure all the silly stuff is gone, some good stuff is sown in and your duty is done/ass is covered. As a mentalist if you want to ensure the hypnotic works remains covert then you can make the wake up covert too.

I believe I go over this on The Manchurian Approach. Essentially you can link the wake up to one particular trigger, you can wrap it up in some other process or decoditioning or you can do it after the show or have someone else side of stage do it.

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