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Do you make the change 1) by clipping the new card with other fingers which leaves with a new grip (Brad`s way)
or 2) by sliding the new card to the same position which leaves the same grip (Daryl`s way) ?

i`ve learned the first way but i keep making the card clicking sound. which is the prefferable method?

Try both, experiment, what works well for one may not for another. Plus work on misdirection, talking and correct eye contact will help to eliminate any issues. Like any move it takes practice, just keep going with what you prefer and master it, best to have one perfect TC than 3 or 4 sloppy ones.

Chris Tennant

I always execute the top change by taking the card into the same index finger-thumb grip as the card I'm replacing.

I always keep the grip on the card the same personally. Both are good but I do that way more comfortably and smoothly.

You will find that differnet people have different preferences - of course! So, what is the issue you are trying to resolve?

I dont know. I'm too busy talking to notice how i do it.And ive never , ever looked at my hands , even in practice.

All i know is, i do it.


see, the secret to the change, is that the result is more important than the execution. And the result can only be obtained, if your Misdirection is spot on.

just happen to have a deck with me. I hold the card inbetween my index, and middle finger tips, with my thumb resting on top of the card.
I then feed the top card of the deck under this card, and pull back with my left thumb, drawing the original card onto the top of the deck.

If im planning to top change, i use steamboats, because they dont have the tell tale border, and the over all pattern blurs.

and....... the click sound never happens, because the thumb on top regulates the pressure.You keep the deck square, and you slide both cards against each other and the deck. So, no step, and no click!

I guess it's all down to what feels comfortable.

Personally I prefer a DL. place both cards back on the deck in my left hand. Place the deck down on the table, then give them the top card.

oh i do that too.. Part of the routine i use a t/c with involves switching cards back and fourth, between the chosen card, and the card that you show when doing the D.L.

Its becoming a very nice, totaly impromptu item.

the person on my left chooses a card, returns the card...

I then show them that their card has jumped to the top of the deck.. only it hasnt.
The card i show him Isn't the chosen card. I show the wrong card to the person on my right.

I then get conformation that the card isn't the card from the person on my left, by showing them the card again

I give the card to the person on my right to hold...

" Right then, only 51 more to go!"

I then ask for the identity of the chosen card.

they tell me... and the person on my right turns the card that he is holding over.. and it's the chosen card.

you see, i need to top change about 4 times, so that both people always see the same cards each time i show them.

and you get away with it, by not looking at your hands, and doint the whole thing at a reasonable pace.

David Williamson's tip for mastering the top change is to stop thinking of it as a top change and imagine yourself doing an Elmsley count.

Pete

I think that David's is THE best, if your going to have the audience look at teh cards as you do it. the in built shrug he does really is a thing of beauty

daleshrimpton wrote:I dont know. I'm too busy talking to notice how i do it.And ive never , ever looked at my hands , even in practice.

All i know is, i do it.


see, the secret to the change, is that the result is more important than the execution. And the result can only be obtained, if your Misdirection is spot on.

I totally agree. I just feed the selected card under the card I wish to exchange, and never look at it. That way they see very little movement periferally (assuming they are looking at you) and it looks like nothing at all has taken place.

pcwells wrote:David Williamson's tip for mastering the top change is to stop thinking of it as a top change and imagine yourself doing an Elmsley count.

Pete

You know what, I really like that tip. The elmsley count is so smooth, so natural, and a good top change should be just that.

My grip is always the same as I don't like to leave any discrepancies.

I think it's good to try out both ways and like people say do what you find comfortable. I tend to do both... Sometimes I hold the same grip and sometimes in between the fingers you know?

But I use the top change when doing a 2 card monte performance (Blaine style) but with some of my own variations!

Im actually quite surprised at some of the views on this thread. I always assumed that it was generally accepted that the switched in card should be held identically to the switched out one. Surely this is the preffered option ? Think about it, you are doing a move. When doing any move it is very important to duplicate reality. The reality of this move that should be duplicated is, well, nothing, apart from maybe a gesture. If nothing has happened why would the card be clipped suddenly with diffirent fingers ? To see what i mean go through one of your routines that uses a top change, only dont do the move - do your usual gesture and misdirection but dont actually switch cards. Notice the card in your hand stays in the exact same place. This is the reality you must duplicate when executing the move, the card should be where it would be if no move took place. jim