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Postby .robb. » Feb 6th, '10, 08:29



Not at all impressed with this. For $30 I had rehashed previously published material sent to my mailbox. This is nothing new.

The method is hit-and-miss regardless of how well rehearsed due to factors outside the performers control. Be prepared to have an out.

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Postby Justin Saul » Feb 7th, '10, 22:50

.robb. wrote:Not at all impressed with this. For $30 I had rehashed previously published material sent to my mailbox. This is nothing new.

The method is hit-and-miss regardless of how well rehearsed due to factors outside the performers control. Be prepared to have an out.


I would recommend using a l**p as an out and then moving on to Banacheks PK pen for a finish.

You're right this isn't surefire but if you use the l**p as an out you still get movement regardless of conditions. I use a Bob Cassidy handling of the PK Pen, when I last performed this it went down a storm, I got reactions of WTF!! WTF!! :lol:

I think this was well worth getting despite my initial scepticism, but if you want something that works 100% of the time then this isn't it.

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Postby TylerMason » Feb 9th, '10, 18:19

Good afternoon all,

I have watched the video and I must say the ideas for spooky themed Haloween tricks are already starting to simmer.

I have never been a 'huge' fan of PK effects to be honest, but I think they still certainly hold sway even in todays sceptical sea of spectators (even the ones who maybe a little clued up on PK principles).

It is with this minority of inquisitive layman in mind, that brings me to my question. If the smart ar*e laymen do think they've clocked the method, (thanks to exposure of utility items like the Raven), is there anything immediate for them to find?.......I'm intrigued by the advertsiment hook of "No Magnets".

Also, can the spinning object be balanced on a spectators finger tip? Apologies if this appears to be another newbie stab at fishing for the method. If you believe this is the case because i have worded my question badly, I'm very sorry.

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Postby Matt Sconce » Feb 9th, '10, 20:27

TylerMason wrote:Good afternoon all,

I have watched the video and I must say the ideas for spooky themed Haloween tricks are already starting to simmer.

I have never been a 'huge' fan of PK effects to be honest, but I think they still certainly hold sway even in todays sceptical sea of spectators (even the ones who maybe a little clued up on PK principles).

It is with this minority of inquisitive layman in mind, that brings me to my question. If the smart ar*e laymen do think they've clocked the method, (thanks to exposure of utility items like the Raven), is there anything immediate for them to find?.......I'm intrigued by the advertsiment hook of "No Magnets".

Also, can the spinning object be balanced on a spectators finger tip? Apologies if this appears to be another stab at fishing for the method. If you believe this is the case because i have worder my question badly, I'm very sorry.


Hello there! :) There is nothing for the spectator to find. They could grab the object mid way through a spin and not find any gimmick because there are none to find. I have not tried to spin objects on a spectator's fingertips. I will go try it now. Be right back. (Walks down to try it on the wife) Okay, It did not work on a finger tip but it did work finger tip down on the back of a finger nail. Best wishes! -Matt Sconce

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Postby .robb. » Feb 9th, '10, 23:02

You can perform it naked. There's nothing physically to hide. Will laymen see through it? Possibly at a later time as they think back on it but that's doubtful. Virtually every living mammal has experienced the method but it's not being applied here in it's traditional sense. I don't see the lay audience making the direct connection.

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Postby Matt Sconce » Feb 10th, '10, 08:04

Here is a post and a video of someone performing SPIN. -Matt Sconce



"Here is my performance of SPIN. I thought you guys might want to see this. For the the people who think you can't SPIN a butcher's knife, think again. I make one SPIN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANtniuPPkuM

Like Matt said, you never come in contact with the object whatsoever. It's pure Psychokinetic Energy you exert. It's fantastic! Thanks Matt for your wonderful release!

Cheers,

Casey "

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Postby TylerMason » Feb 10th, '10, 11:17

Matt Sconce wrote:
TylerMason wrote:Good afternoon all,

I have watched the video and I must say the ideas for spooky themed Haloween tricks are already starting to simmer.

I have never been a 'huge' fan of PK effects to be honest, but I think they still certainly hold sway even in todays sceptical sea of spectators (even the ones who maybe a little clued up on PK principles).

It is with this minority of inquisitive layman in mind, that brings me to my question. If the smart ar*e laymen do think they've clocked the method, (thanks to exposure of utility items like the Raven), is there anything immediate for them to find?.......I'm intrigued by the advertsiment hook of "No Magnets".

Also, can the spinning object be balanced on a spectators finger tip? Apologies if this appears to be another stab at fishing for the method. If you believe this is the case because i have worder my question badly, I'm very sorry.


Hello there! :) There is nothing for the spectator to find. They could grab the object mid way through a spin and not find any gimmick because there are none to find. I have not tried to spin objects on a spectator's fingertips. I will go try it now. Be right back. (Walks down to try it on the wife) Okay, It did not work on a finger tip but it did work finger tip down on the back of a finger nail. Best wishes! -Matt Sconce



Thanks for your reply Matt, I appreciate your test on the wife :) Very kind of you. Maybe the balancing on the finger nail instead of the tip is even better. I can see myself laying out face up cards in a clockface fashion, post fo**e, and then asking the spectator to point to the centre of the clock. On goes the balanced object onto their outstretched finger, with the instruction to imagine they're actually pointing to their selection. Slowly the balanaced object would begin to spin, perhaps gathering some speed, until gently stopping on the card they are pointing at in their imagination. I reckon this may freak them out a little.

Does anyone think this would this be a plausible presentation? If there are no restrictions to making this particular presentation work, then I'm sold. I'm buying this today before my rent, tax and utility bills go out of my bank account (who needs warmth and electricity this month ehh?)

Thanks again Matt. Take care. Tyler

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Postby Mr_Grue » Feb 10th, '10, 11:37

Shame to waste the effect on a card trick, Tyler. Could you use something other than playing cards, that would make for a more personal connection for the participant? I do like the "spin as selector" idea, but it seems to jar for me when used with playing cards.

Simon Scott

If the spectator doesn't engage in the effect,
then the only thing left is the method.


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Postby TylerMason » Feb 10th, '10, 11:54

Mr_Grue wrote:Shame to waste the effect on a card trick, Tyler. Could you use something other than playing cards, that would make for a more personal connection for the participant? I do like the "spin as selector" idea, but it seems to jar for me when used with playing cards.



True, the inherent connotations relating to playing cards is sometimes at the front of the spectators mind when they see a deck brought out. I agree.

Maybe the selection could still be something easy to carry for walk around performances (like a tarot deck or set of ESP symbols), but would this be a strong enough presentational hook? Do you think I could possibly link it to a graphology routine, where the spinning object points the specators handwritting or drawing?

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Postby Mr_Grue » Feb 10th, '10, 12:02

To me that would be much stronger. I know it's not the sort of flavour everyone favours, but using spin as a reveal for a Living and Dead test ought to be very powerful indeed.

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Postby Tom Lauten » Feb 10th, '10, 12:31

You could use it as a Ouija board type of pointer to point at yes or no icons and perhaps at one of a number of objects that latter in the "experiment" turn out to have great and creepy part of your tale, e.g. a coin that was reported to be carried by "the victim", a pair of glasses found "at the scene" or a small tin box that "held the tablets".

If we can hit that bullseye then the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... Checkmate!
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Postby Matt Sconce » Feb 10th, '10, 19:28

Hey guys. Those are all great ideas. The only thing I have to add is that if the object or pen is placed on the back of a finger nail, it will probably not be able to do a full rotation due to the shape of the finger getting in the way. It can definitely be made to move and spin but will be limited by the above reasoning. I believe the presentations you are talking about will work better with the object placed on something that allows 360 degrees of freedom of movement. -Matt Sconce

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Postby TylerMason » Feb 11th, '10, 10:41

Matt Sconce wrote:Hey guys. Those are all great ideas. The only thing I have to add is that if the object or pen is placed on the back of a finger nail, it will probably not be able to do a full rotation due to the shape of the finger getting in the way. It can definitely be made to move and spin but will be limited by the above reasoning. I believe the presentations you are talking about will work better with the object placed on something that allows 360 degrees of freedom of movement. -Matt Sconce



Good point Matt. I hadn't thought of that.

I love the living & dead / ouija board idea too guys. I can see myself trying that one with the pointer spinning around on the top of an upside wine glass, and at the spookiest moment of revelation, the glass shatters, and the pointer falls.

Now I just need to find a stockist who can supply those gaff glasses, or at the very least, the stuff needed to prep your own glasses.....I'm assuming thats possible of course. Does anyone know if they can be gimmicked yourself with materials made available to 'Joe Public' consumer? Or are we talking stockists of theatrical supplies only here? Any suggestions?

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Postby Tom Lauten » Feb 11th, '10, 14:45

Breakaway Effects Ltd.
Shepperton
http://www.breakawayfx.com/

Look under "glasses"

Telephone:
01932592446

Or you can build a real glass smasher into the table

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Postby TylerMason » Feb 11th, '10, 15:26

Tom Lauten wrote:Breakaway Effects Ltd.
Shepperton
http://www.breakawayfx.com/

Look under "glasses"

Telephone:
01932592446

Or you can build a real glass smasher into the table



Splendid. Cheers for that Tom.

I shall be shopping on there this afternoon now. I will look into the modus operandi of the glass smasher built into the table too. Sounds much more efficient in the long term.

Thanks again for your kind recommendation.

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