The Third Man by Simon Edwards

Review area devoted to tricks and effects where props are involved.

Moderators: Mandrake, bananafish, Lady of Mystery, support, nickj

Manufacturer of modern & unique magic apparatus! Best prices around! Best prices around! UK's Online Magic Tricks and Jokes Shop offers kids and beginner magic tricks and jokes. MagicWorld Magic Shop for Magic Tricks Dude That's Cool Magic

The Third Man by Simon Edwards

Postby Tomo » Apr 30th, '10, 12:34



The Effect
The Third Man by Simon Edwards http://mind.hak.me


Cost
Photos and Instructions: £39.99
Instructions only: £35.99
Replacement photosets: £9.99 for one, £14.99 for two and £19.99 for three
Custom photosets (3 sets): £39.99

Difficulty
(1=easy to do, 2=No sleights, but not so easy, 3=Some sleights used,
4=Advanced sleights used, 5=Suitable for experienced magicians only)
1


Review

What they say:
    Be in no doubt, this is a strong effect. I care most about entertaining the public and not in impressing magicians. That said, when The Third Man debuted at the seventh meeting of the British Society of Mystery Performers in April 2010 it went down a storm with seasoned performers. That was, it has to be said, gratifying.

    Never before have I seen a professional mentalist reel away and shout "No!" on the final revelation of any trick before that night. The public I performed for during the same evening behaved the same way. This is not an empty marketing claim – this effect can produce great reactions. And now you have the instructions.
What I say:
    I was there. I saw the reactions. It’s true - all of it.

    The best mentalism is both simple to perform and yet completely deceives the audience. The Third Man meets both criteria. My favourite mentalism is also flexible. The principle behind this effect and Simon’s unique customisation service makes it very flexible indeed. So, enough fundament smoke already. What’s it like to perform?

    Basically, this is a self-working effect, but with a psychological force you can use that will add to the impact. Like all good psych forces, it’s not essential, so if it doesn’t work, no one need ever know, but if it does it makes the effect all the more powerful. Once you have the procedure practiced, you have lots of space to build up your patter.

    Performing is it simple. Like all effects, make sure you understand it and you’re good to go. If you make your living from performing, you should be thinking about getting one of the 100 copies produced. The manuscript is understandably well written (Simon is an editor on a national magazine), and contains tons of extra information on variations, subtleties and other themes for the effect.

Overall
    This is a very nice effect indeed, doubly so considering that it’s Simon’s first release. I would have given it 9/10, but remembering the reactions it got at Tabula Mentis VII, it has to be 10/10!


Image
User avatar
Tomo
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 9866
Joined: May 4th, '05, 23:46
Location: Darkest Cheshire (forty-bloody-six going on six)

Postby Mandrake » Apr 30th, '10, 12:41

I'd rush and pre-order this right now except for one thing... I pre-ordered it yesterday! I just hope I'm in the first 100.....

User avatar
Mandrake
'
 
Posts: 27310
Joined: Apr 20th, '03, 21:00
Location: UK (72:AH)

Postby DrTodd » Apr 30th, '10, 12:50

I concur wholeheartedly with Tomo's review. I was there and saw it in the evening and immediately loved it.

This is a great effect and open to lots of possibilities.

Excellent work Ted!

Cheers

Dr Todd

User avatar
DrTodd
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2196
Joined: Feb 5th, '06, 08:44
Location: East Bergholt

Postby daleshrimpton » Apr 30th, '10, 12:52

I missed it :(

you're like Yoda.you dont say much, but what you do say is worth listening to....
Greg Wilson about.... Me.
User avatar
daleshrimpton
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 7186
Joined: Apr 28th, '03, 08:49
Location: Burnham, Slough Berkshire

Postby Lenoir » Apr 30th, '10, 12:55

Did you get it for free?

"I want to do magic...but I don't want to be referred to as a magician." - A layman chatting to me about magic.
Lenoir
Elite Member
 
Posts: 4246
Joined: Dec 31st, '07, 23:06

Postby Mandrake » Apr 30th, '10, 13:25

Lenoir wrote:Did you get it for free?
Not sure who that question was meant for but, assuming I'm lucky enough to have got on the waiting list in time, I certainly paid for mine - like I do for everything.

User avatar
Mandrake
'
 
Posts: 27310
Joined: Apr 20th, '03, 21:00
Location: UK (72:AH)

Postby daleshrimpton » Apr 30th, '10, 13:28

I think he was talking to J.T.

Ive not had a copy free.

It does sound absolutly splendid though..

you're like Yoda.you dont say much, but what you do say is worth listening to....
Greg Wilson about.... Me.
User avatar
daleshrimpton
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 7186
Joined: Apr 28th, '03, 08:49
Location: Burnham, Slough Berkshire

Postby Mandrake » Apr 30th, '10, 13:33

To be very blunt, it would be difficult to give objective assessments with freebies. If I pay for something and I think it's pants then I'd feel quite free to say so - in a polite and reasonable manner, of course!

User avatar
Mandrake
'
 
Posts: 27310
Joined: Apr 20th, '03, 21:00
Location: UK (72:AH)

Postby Lenoir » Apr 30th, '10, 13:35

I just wondered if it was a freebie or not because that is often a very important factor in how a review sways. In no way was I having ago at Jon or attempting to undermine his review, I just wondered if he paid for his copy.

"I want to do magic...but I don't want to be referred to as a magician." - A layman chatting to me about magic.
Lenoir
Elite Member
 
Posts: 4246
Joined: Dec 31st, '07, 23:06

Postby Tomo » Apr 30th, '10, 13:39

I was lucky enough to get a review copy, which its why I reviewed it. :D However, like Dr Todd, I saw the reactions and I've also used it myself, in the pub on Wednesday night, which is partly why I had such a bad hangover yesterday. It's a "drinker" (free booze from punters!).

I get sent a few unsolicited copies of things every year. The ones I don't think are ready to be written up I don't review but instead send notes back. Might as well help to make a better product.

Image
User avatar
Tomo
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 9866
Joined: May 4th, '05, 23:46
Location: Darkest Cheshire (forty-bloody-six going on six)

Postby daleshrimpton » Apr 30th, '10, 13:43

to be clear on something here....

If Im given something for free to review,(and i often am) i will heap prase if its due, and offer constructive criticism if i see potential.. and if i think its crud...... I will either say so, or just not write a review.

And i hope that people know me well enough by now, to know this is the case.

Also one other thing.. If i think it's a load of toot, Ill rip the thing apart, work out why i think its pants, and see if i can sugest to the sender a way that it might be improved.

this is why you see my name mentioned in quite a few dealer items out there :)

however, i feel that this thread is going a wee bit off topic....

you're like Yoda.you dont say much, but what you do say is worth listening to....
Greg Wilson about.... Me.
User avatar
daleshrimpton
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 7186
Joined: Apr 28th, '03, 08:49
Location: Burnham, Slough Berkshire

Postby Ted » Apr 30th, '10, 14:17

There are a few free copies in circulation. Jon has one of them, although he saw the performance(s) before he received the instructions, the kit or even an explanation from me.

In fact, the few people who have an insight into the effect have all received free instructions in PDF format and a set of photos with which they can try the effect. This is because the commercial kits, which include a printed book, are not yet available. They received them as thanks for their help, encouragement and generally being nice to me over the years :)

I'm taking pre-orders now and the first 100 buyers will receive everything they need by mid-May. I'm hoping to ship the stuff out earlier but I don't want to string anyone along so I'm playing it safe with the dates.

I'm enormously grateful for this glowing review, by the way. And I hope that I'll be able to supply the TM folk here before word spreads and I run out of stock. As Jon says, to keep things exclusive I'm only producing 100 sets of instructions. Once #100 is sold that's it for a full year.

Best wishes,
Ted.

Ted
Advanced Member
 
Posts: 1878
Joined: Dec 4th, '08, 00:17
Location: London

Postby IAIN » Apr 30th, '10, 14:33

and it works the same way as white-labels do in the music industry...you have to send them out to people for opinions and reviews before you release it...

just 'cos its a good review maybe suggests that humans are suspicious in nature and will always think "something's up"...when its just cos its good...

i got a freebie - not for review, but because Ted and I are lovers...

IAIN
 

Postby Lenoir » Apr 30th, '10, 15:01

I wasn't suggesting the only reason it got such a good review was because it was given out for a free.

"I want to do magic...but I don't want to be referred to as a magician." - A layman chatting to me about magic.
Lenoir
Elite Member
 
Posts: 4246
Joined: Dec 31st, '07, 23:06

Postby IAIN » Apr 30th, '10, 15:02

then why did you ask, lenny?

IAIN
 

Next

Return to Reviews - Tricks 'n Props

Visit Magicbox for all the latest and best effects! Aeternum Servare Secreta Playing Cards for Magicians Web Design for Magicians A web site set up to sell my book, THE STRIPPER DECK, and future magical/mentalism titles. Sorcery Shop - Home of the ITR World-Of-Magic, Suppliers of quality Magic Worldwide

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron