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Postby seangiles » Mar 18th, '11, 08:03



Pocket 2 pocket 2 pocket is my absolute favourite. You can see the whole table laughing and enjoying it in the performance section. It's playing with the audience in the nicest way possible. Love it. Great DVD. Great magic. And it's only £20!

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Postby DavMac » May 16th, '11, 09:39

I tried eye phone 10 at the weekend in conjunction with instant radio as either radio app or hold music (to separate specs). Reactions were great!

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Postby Gary Jones » May 17th, '11, 22:12

DavMac wrote:I tried eye phone 10 at the weekend in conjunction with instant radio as either radio app or hold music (to separate specs). Reactions were great!


What an excellent idea DavMac, I often use Instant Radio just as a gag so the idea of combining them is a superb piece of routining!

Thanks for sharing.

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Postby Lee Smith » Jun 29th, '11, 12:24

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby magicwand1973 » Aug 23rd, '11, 15:01

I have just bought this and its brilliant!! I ve never really done card magic before as I tend not to carry cards with me but now I just might start!! The no sleep trick is so simple but effective I learnt it in minutes and did it that evening!!

Top marks for this DVD and priced brilliantly too!

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Karma » Feb 7th, '12, 23:43

Just bought this DVD as it's had plenty of good reviews.
so this is what I thought of it,

It seems like very good value for the amount of ideas that are on this DVD and running time is about 2.5 hours and 15 routines.

I think really that it's more for magicians with good card skills which is something I don't yet have. There is a lot in here that I wouldn't be able to do and quite a few tricks where they assume you know how to do the slights and they are often not fully explained. This is probably fair enough because it's aimed at magicians, I'm just a c*** (not the best) one with few card skills :D, but I'm learning so will return to some of these ideas in the future.

"No Palm Coins through table" This method didn't work at all for me and I have to say I think It could have been improved, but Maybe It was just me being c*** (not the best) again.

"Pocket 2 Pocket 2 Pocket" This routine is nothing short of brilliant, It's what magic is all about. The participants are totally amazed as they watch the impossible happen before their eyes. Something they will probably remember forever. Again, this is not something that I can do but It's something I will be aiming for in the future.

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Alfred Borden » Feb 8th, '12, 22:44

This is a superb DVD and worth every penny, absolutely brilliant

I bought this just before Christmas as a gift to myself and Lee very kindly put something else in as a Christmas gift

Not only that but the DVD was here on Christmas eve, think I only ordered on the 22nd/23rd

In short, Lee always comes across a top fella and this product comes highly recommended

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Postby CArlight1958 » Feb 10th, '12, 09:14

Karma wrote:I think really that it's more for magicians with good card skills which is something I don't yet have. There is a lot in here that I wouldn't be able to do and quite a few tricks where they assume you know how to do the slights and they are often not fully explained.


Hello Karma,

If your finding the card slights difficult to follow on this dvd, then maybe you need to get a copy of Royal Road,
or something along those lines, & learn a little more about slight of hand.
I have to disagree that Gary, & Lee do not "fully explain" each trick performed. I found the teaching of each effect to be very thorough.

In time you will master many of the slights.
I bought all of Darwin Ortiz's dvds last year. I can remember watching them, & thinking to myself, I will never be able to do any of this.
Now over a year on, & with many hours of practice, I am starting to do some of the routines I never would have dreamed of tackling last year.
One gets out of magic, what one puts in, & if your willing to put the hours of practice in, then nothing is not possible.

Gary, & Lee are very helpful chaps, nothing is ever too much trouble for them.
So if your a little stuck on something, just ask, I'm sure you will get a response.

Take care.

CArl... :wink:

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Alfred Borden » Feb 10th, '12, 11:47

CArlight1958 wrote:
Karma wrote:I think really that it's more for magicians with good card skills which is something I don't yet have. There is a lot in here that I wouldn't be able to do and quite a few tricks where they assume you know how to do the slights and they are often not fully explained.


Hello Karma,

If your finding the card slights difficult to follow on this dvd, then maybe you need to get a copy of Royal Road,
or something along those lines, & learn a little more about slight of hand.
I have to disagree that Gary, & Lee do not "fully explain" each trick performed. I found the teaching of each effect to be very thorough.

In time you will master many of the slights.
I bought all of Darwin Ortiz's dvds last year. I can remember watching them, & thinking to myself, I will never be able to do any of this.
Now over a year on, & with many hours of practice, I am starting to do some of the routines I never would have dreamed of tackling last year.
One gets out of magic, what one puts in, & if your willing to put the hours of practice in, then nothing is not possible.

Gary, & Lee are very helpful chaps, nothing is ever too much trouble for them.
So if your a little stuck on something, just ask, I'm sure you will get a response.

Take care.

CArl... :wink:


I have to agree with Carl here, I found the DVD very easy to follow, and I am not quite there with a lot of the sleights, but "controlling a card", "DL", "tr**** l***", and things like that can be learnt elsewhere like Carl says

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Gary Jones » Feb 10th, '12, 14:00

This is a tough one, do you explain every sleight you perform on the DVD and reduce the amount of effects, or, do you just explain the not so well known sleights and assume magicians have the basics, we settled for the second option to give extra value for money.

I fully understand that for some this DVD will not seem to be complete move wise, but to many others who have studied card and coin moves I think they are pleased we didn't go through the basics and got straight to the point. We did try to strike a happy medium and explain the palms and secret transfers etc, but we drew a line at such moves as the TC, DL and the EC.

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Lee Smith » Feb 10th, '12, 15:25

Gary Jones wrote:This is a tough one, do you explain every sleight you perform on the DVD and reduce the amount of effects, or, do you just explain the not so well known sleights and assume magicians have the basics, we settled for the second option to give extra value for money.

I fully understand that for some this DVD will not seem to be complete move wise, but to many others who have studied card and coin moves I think they are pleased we didn't go through the basics and got straight to the point. We did try to strike a happy medium and explain the palms and secret transfers etc, but we drew a line at such moves as the TC, DL and the EC.

Gary Jones.



The thing is I had to teach Gary all these moves (DL took ages) before we started and he didn't want to sit through it all again. :lol:

Only joking.

Yes its difficult to know where to draw the line? I find thisn is also is the case when we lecture.

I have loads of DVD/videos that I could not master then after revisiting them found I could do easily.

Its just time and practice.

Thank you all so much and really pleased everyone enjoyed iCandy.

As mentioned just pm me for any help.

Lee.

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Stephen Ward » Feb 10th, '12, 16:19

This is why i stress the importance of learning a good arsenal of sleights, that way you can use stuff such as you find on this DVD. Kick back KIngs is one of the best versions of that type of trick i have seen and scoop is just essential for any worker. If you have a good book or DVD on card sleights then you can always learn some good stuff. As someone who will soon be going back into magic (just cards this time) i have been putting together new sets of material to use. Much of it is Lee's, Paul Gordon and a couple of my own. Not a single TV magician trick in site, no utility belts that make me look like Batman, and no bulging pockets!

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Postby Lawrence » Feb 10th, '12, 17:02

Lee Smith wrote:Yes its difficult to know where to draw the line?

And we won't be happy wherever you draw it!

If you don't explain enough we'll complain there's not enough detail
If you over explain we'll complain you keep nattering on about something far too long

You can't win, Lee, You Can't Win!!!!!! :wink:

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Karma » Feb 10th, '12, 17:11

I do have "Royal Road" but need to read it again as I've been jumping from on effect to another in my eagerness to learn. I need to focus on less things at a time and do them properly. I've just started at a magic club which should help too.

I didn't mean the review to sound overly negative. I thought the DVD was a good standard and very good value but a review should also point out any things that a person thinks could be better about a product. I did point out my own shortcomings in the review too.

Thanks Gary and Lee for commenting on this without getting over defensive, I do appreciate your answers and accept what you say. Hopefully I will be performing some of your stuff in the future. Infact "Ring To Purse" is something that I feel is at my level of current experience so that will be first.

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Re: ICandy - Lee Smith & Gary Jones - Review

Postby Mandrake » Feb 10th, '12, 17:53

There was a time, waaay back in the last century, when I was similarly miffed. I’d bought the latest gee-whiz-bang, sure-fire, fry-your-mate’s-brains-out packet trick based on seeing the vid online at the supplier’s website. Ripping open the instructions like a pubescent YouTuber I was very dismayed to read, ‘Simply do the Reverse Nullified Aardvark Count and...’ Simply? What the hell was that all about? There was nothing simple about it; I had no idea what it was! Since then I’ve discovered that such moves and sleights are thoroughly explained elsewhere at nominal cost and apply equally to each and every routine which calls for such a move. If the original instructions had contained all the details there would have been several sheets of paper which would only have bogged down the rest of the routine's instructions.

IMHO if you buy a car, it’s assumed you know how to drive and the supplier doesn’t include lessons in the price anyway. If you buy a computer and want to know how to program it, you have to make extra purchases for that information but once bought, they apply to other machines as well. Thus it is with magic, up to a point it’s good to have detailed information but after that it’s reasonable to assume that the purchaser will either have existing knowledge or will go out and acquire the knowledge.

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