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Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Alfred Borden » Sep 21st, '11, 20:58

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Ste Porterfield » Sep 21st, '11, 21:03

Mate - your CUPS is off the scale!

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Lenoir » Sep 21st, '11, 21:07

Not really - it looks like a version of the Reformation by Guy Hollingworth but with a lot clumsier and more hidden handling.

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Alfred Borden » Sep 21st, '11, 21:08

Ste - you're not wrong!

Lenoir - I am unaware of that version

Links please?

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Lenoir » Sep 21st, '11, 21:14

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Lenoir » Sep 21st, '11, 21:16

Just to add...this was a very sterile and unusually forced performance...I've seen him live three times, all three were performances for the public, not magicians, and two out of three times he got a standing ovation...including Derren Brown, who was sitting a few seats in front of me.

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Alfred Borden » Sep 21st, '11, 21:16

Cheers :D

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Alfred Borden » Sep 21st, '11, 21:21

Lenoir wrote:Just to add...this was a very sterile and unusually forced performance...I've seen him live three times, all three were performances for the public, not magicians, and two out of three times he got a standing ovation...including Derren Brown, who was sitting a few seats in front of me.


Wow, lovely performance, and that close as well

Where can I buy this? lol

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Lenoir » Sep 21st, '11, 21:25

He put it out on VHS a long time ago but it's a bit of a collectors item now. It is also meticulously described in his book Drawing Room Deceptions. It is very...well, it'll take an absolutely huge amount of time to get to the point where you can perform it.

Unless you are really willing to invest a hell of a lot of time in front of the mirror and failing miserably, I suggest perhaps Torn by Daniel Garcia or maybe the Forrest thing.

Personally, I think if you truly love the effect, any amount of practice is worth it if it makes the effect stronger..which in this case I think it does.

It's a person to person thing though.

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Alfred Borden » Sep 21st, '11, 21:52

Lenoir wrote:He put it out on VHS a long time ago but it's a bit of a collectors item now. It is also meticulously described in his book Drawing Room Deceptions. It is very...well, it'll take an absolutely huge amount of time to get to the point where you can perform it.

Unless you are really willing to invest a hell of a lot of time in front of the mirror and failing miserably, I suggest perhaps Torn by Daniel Garcia or maybe the Forrest thing.

Personally, I think if you truly love the effect, any amount of practice is worth it if it makes the effect stronger..which in this case I think it does.

It's a person to person thing though.


Yeah makes sense

Putting in a fair bit of time to perfect DL and getting ACR down well

Thanks for advice

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Arkesus » Sep 23rd, '11, 18:54

Have tried Star, much prefer Torn.

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby C.L.Ward » Sep 26th, '11, 11:31

cant recommend matthieu bichs TnR enough...... uses a gimmick but is really pleasing on the eye and not hard to master!!! plus it has a killer ending that the audience would never expect!!!

http://www.theory11.com/tricks/tnr.php

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Lenoir » Sep 26th, '11, 11:43

C.L.Ward wrote:cant recommend matthieu bichs TnR enough...... uses a gimmick but is really pleasing on the eye and not hard to master!!! plus it has a killer ending that the audience would never expect!!!

http://www.theory11.com/tricks/tnr.php" target="_blank


The audience don't expect it because it makes no sense.

You rip up one playing card, then restore it...then show it's another card...thus you prove that you didn't restore the original..

It completely ruins the impossibility of the plot in my opinion.

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Rob » Sep 26th, '11, 12:20

Mate....

Before spending on yet another T&R, just play with your Redemption - you're just about to go off and buy pretty much EXACTLY the same effect (albeit with a different method) that you've already shelled out for!

There's CUPs, and then there's throwing your dosh away :wink:

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Re: Anyone tempted by this T & R?

Postby Jordy » Oct 3rd, '11, 17:57

have all tried Counterfeit hollingworth from W. Houchin ? it's realy beautiful impromptu TnR in my opinion (before the ending phase) : )

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