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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Tomo » Mar 30th, '12, 13:40



Tee hee, silly...

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Acolophon » Apr 1st, '12, 07:33

Allen Tipton wrote:Alcolophon--I understand what you mean re Henry Hay' title.
But in 1947 when the book was first published--the word 'amateur' was an honourable word.Allen Tipton

Allen, in my mind, and I'm sure in yours, it still is! We know that we all stand on the shoulders of giants.
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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Nic Castle » Sep 8th, '13, 18:58

Allen Tipton wrote:My son Mike, swears by the old and not quite so old books.
He keeps finding methods neglected and often forgotten by today's magicians,

In between University studies he pours over:
Professor Hoffmann' Modern Magic, More Magic, Later Magic & King Koko
Will Goldston's Exclusive Magicial Secrets, More EMS and Further EMS, plus several other Goldston books.
The Rupert Howard Course In Magic
Some of the Ellis Stanyon material
Walter Gibson's earlier works
Dunninger
Corinda's 13 Steps.
Annemann's Practical Mental Magic.The Jinx.
Tarbell Volumes 1 to 8. Tarbell Companion. Tarbell Study Guide
Many of my childhood magic books from 50 Best Conjuring Tricks, Norman Hunter & Bert Douglas
Showmanship & Presentation by Edward Maurice.
The Fitzkee Trilology: Showmanship For Magicians, Magic By Misdirection, The Trick Brain
Milbourne Christopher's Illustrated History Of Magic. Panorama of Magic (now re published as; Magic-A Picture History
amongst many others including old and newer magazines
Plus the books on Programmes that Magicians presented :Programmes Of Magicians(, J.F Burroughs--Magical Night At The Theatre by Charles Waller & Gerald Taylor, Max Holden's Programmes of Magicians, 101 Magic Great Acts, Tony Taylor & the great Reviews of Full Evening Shows, first published in Genii, with photos--Arnold Furst's, Famous Magicians Of The World & Great magic Shows. These cover everone ffrom Dante, Kalanag, Carter, Levant to John Calvert, Houdini--and many more--ALL actually seen by Arnold Furst. 2nd hand copies are around
plus slightly more up to date authors as
Val Andrews--my late great friend
Roy Johnson-- another friend. The RJ Experience, Second Time Round, Third Dimension,Final Call, Silver Special, Pure Gold & Roy's Lecture notes
Eddie Burke's incredible range of Mental Magic
Barrie Richardson's Theatre Of The Mind. Act Two
Basil Horowitz's 4 books on Mental Magic
Al Baker's material
Quality Magic and Magic Of Okito.
The Robert Albo Book--Oriental magic Of The Bambergs
and many more.....the list is nearly endless---My 28 main book shelves get emptier by the week!!

I have brought him up on:
BOOKS; which he loves as much as his Dad has always done.
Here is the Real Knowledge.
You can develop many an original idea and presentation from READING.
It makes you think for yourself. And you study at your own leisure!
And is it not-- easier to turn back a page or two to remind you of what you've read.
Much easier than operating an electronic control to scroll back and forth!!!

OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS he will receive: The 21 bound volumes of Hugard's Magic Monthly, some old bound Abras, Edwin's 4 Books, and The Harbin Book (Magic Of Robert Harbin)

DVDS/VIDEOS.. Very useful for storing material, CHECKING a sleight, a handling -- BUT NOT to COPY EXACTLY what is on them or that magician's style & presentation
AND ABOVE ALL--*** Seeing (MOST IMPORTANT) performances of magicians who have the polish, the style and the originality***
SOMETIMES to see How it Should NOT be done!!
Allen Tipton


I couldn't agree more, I love books and although dvds can be beneficial in showing you a technique they seem to help create clones. Reading a book causes you to become more creative and become a unique performer in your own right.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Acolophon » Sep 10th, '13, 11:35

What a sensible young man

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby m0lsx » Dec 20th, '14, 12:37

I tend to keep an eye on ebay, many great books are sold cheap on there as no one seems to want them.
I have a collection of booklets about Wierd & psychic effects by C V Musson.
A metal bending booklet by Guy Bavali & a booklet by Gene Anderson on Newspaper magic.
All brought for a fraction of their real worth.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Magus » Dec 21st, '14, 16:24

My favourite 'beginners' book is A Book Of Magic For Young Magicians : The Secrets Of Alkazar. While the title makes it sound like a basic book for children it contains some fantastic information in its short chapters. I honestly believe every magician or aspiring magician inexperienced and experienced alike can benefit from reading this and it should be a part of every magic library.

Oh and it can be picked up from as little as £2.81 :shock: go buy!

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Max Gordon » Feb 17th, '15, 10:57

How often have you bought a book, read an effect and thought. "That's not for me" or that's wayyyyy too difficult. We may learn one or two routines before banishing the book to the shelf. Returning to such a tome 2-3 years down the line only to find amazing new routines that you are now capable of performing. The lesson being that we read any book with a "current" mindset based on our knowledge or experience at the time of reading. In an ideal world we should all revisit the classics (See Alan Tiptons list) to see what we missed in the past.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby TSHINDO » Mar 31st, '15, 12:15

My first magic book was Gyles Brandreth's children's book of magic. I remember the tricks ranged from the "That is stupid" to the "If I start taking a pair of scissors to my best trousers my ma will cane me!" and finally the "How the £%$& am I supposed to do that! I'm six you fool!". There was one with a fish bowl covered in clingfilm and you made the water bubble, that required a host of household ingredients and nerves of steel. Sounded great but clearly fell into the latter category.

Though there is not a single trick in there that I do now (to be honest ever done) it did teach a lot about patter and personality, lessons which were useful in life and not just in magic.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Magicadz » Jun 24th, '15, 09:00

I am fortunate enough to be the current librarian for The North Western Society of Magicians, who are celebrating their 100 year anniversary. Since receiving the books I have learnt some absolute Cracker Jack tricks and routines. My favourite has to be a 52 out pack from a book entitled A Testament to R W Hull. The writings even apologies about delayed letter writing responses due to German U-Boats sinking the mail ships, so it's like reading history too. I lectured with the material learned from the literature. "Tricks from the Librarian" was a huge success.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Magicadz » Jun 25th, '15, 22:08

I think I am a long time alone on this subject. Read I think all of Karl Fulves. Just ordered More Self Working Card Tricks from Amazon to finish the set. As far as bedtime reading it's the equivalent of Enid Blyton in the magic world. Ordered Pyschological Subtleties 3 too so good read fest' coming my way.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Lady of Mystery » Jun 26th, '15, 07:55

I love old books like that, I can spend hours with my nose burried in them. There's a beautiful effect somewhere (I think it's in an issue of the Jinx) that mentions that you'll only be able perform it in some of the larger cities in America where the phone system uses the new fangled dial tone.

Karl Fulves' books are brilliant as well, they're packed full of some amazing ideas, cost next to nothing and are so often over looked by magicians who think that they'll be too basic for them.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby magicofthemind » Jun 26th, '15, 09:16

Have a look at my comment on page 1 of this thread about Karl Fulves.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby Magicadz » Jun 26th, '15, 23:13

Thanks Barry I'm always up for another unknown edition of Mr Fulves. Got his big book of magic today from a certain online trading site for under £3 including postage.

It comes in waves with me, the urge to buy magic books. It's a no brainier, buy a book for a small sum and learn a mine of good stuff or pay a healthy sum for the latest gimmick.

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby magicofthemind » Jun 27th, '15, 08:03

Magicadz wrote: It's a no brainier, buy a book for a small sum and learn a mine of good stuff or pay a healthy sum for the latest gimmick.


My thinking exactly. That's probably why I have far too many books ...

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Re: Don't over look the basic books

Postby dazm123 » Jun 27th, '15, 20:34

I cant remember which magician said this but it was a long time ago about coming full circle in your magic - meaning you start with the easy sleights, always working towards more difficult onez, then return to the easy ones and you realise how perfectly you can perform them. Its the same with books. You eventually come full circle and see new magic in them. Great post.

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