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If it turns out he isn't an actor at all, it's unfortunate that he quickly changed his profile name a few times once it was discovered, just made everyone more convinced something fishy was going on.

Quite funny to see the two men together though for people who thought it was the same person

Lenoir wrote:

Lord Freddie wrote:If anything I think he's proven that magicians are just as easily suckered as the patronisingly called lays.
If Dynamo had made this you'd all be laying into him for using an obvious actor.

Derren could have has Ewan Macgregor in it and some magicians would still say its genuine. Lol

So very true. But on the flip side, no matter who Derren picked, it could've been your best friend, you would've
still passionately posted multiple times on two forums and Facebook that he was an actor!

Yes I would. It's funny to see those desperately trying to defend a career in artistic decline.
It's a rehash of his excellent video game thing from Tricks of The Mind but padded out and not as good.

As we have yet to see the actual outcome, perhaps we should let this thread rest until Friday?

Lord Freddie wrote:If anything I think he's proven that magicians are just as easily suckered as the patronisingly called lays.
If Dynamo had made this you'd all be laying into him for using an obvious actor.

Agreed. Derren did a show a few years back with some guy called David and I am sure I have seen him in one or two things on the telly.

Joking apart, there could be many things that happened off-screen that explain why Steve is not acting quite as you might expect and how Derren put him under so quickly. We don't know what "reality" Steve was programmed to see. Same with any apparent continuity errors: Derren could have gone in and "mind-wiped" Steve, then started a scene again.

The question about why people would head to Wales or Scotland is particularly odd. First, if the bacteria-carrying meteors (bacteria that cause a viral zombie plague...) hit the South East of England, then the parts of the country furthest away would be safest. Second, if you watched the show, you'd have seen they are setting up a choice where Steve must decide whether to stick with Ian/Iain and head to Scotland, or try to find his family in Wales. At least, that's how I see it developing.

Why isn't he hungry or thirsty? Because if he hadn't had any water for 14 days, he'd be dead, wouldn't he?

There's a real sense of people casting around to pick holes, even if the clever points actually make no sense.

It is a TV show and you do not see everything. The show involves hypnotism/suggestion and this can account for almost any inconsistency in props, reactions, appearances etc.

It's also not terribly surprising if someone who had an interest in acting and appearing on one of Derren's shows turns out to be quite suggestible and good at putting himself into a role.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the first show and am looking forward to the rest of the journey to the Emerald City.

I shan't be posting this info anywhere else, but my Sister knows him.


And he's no actor.



Hes not much of a drinker either. hes known as 2 pint brosnan.

Just one quick bit about 'casting profiles'. Last year I was on John Bishop's Britain for five episodes. Four of them are on a profile that was created by someone else for me (I assume the producers of the programme) on IMDb - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4560263/

I still think Apocalypse is a weak piece of work no matter how much Derren protests. As previously mentioned it is a larger rework of the video game section from a previous programme.

The second episode left me underwhelmed. Very little seemed to happen. It might have been a great learning experience for Steve, but tonight's show added pretty much nothing from this viewer's point of view. You didn't even have the tension you'd get from a "living dead" film, as you had no reason to suspend disbelief and sympathise with the characters. I'm glad I wasn't expecting a twist, or I'd have been really disappointed.

It reminded me of many Stephen King stories: a terrific set-up and then a damp squib of an ending.

What happened to the clever-clever Derren knows what he's doing twist that his fawning fan-boys told us to expect?

I was hoping he had planned something clever rather than badly rehashed old ideas and trying to present them as a "self help journey". He now thinks he's some kind of guru who can change people's lives. Not that different to the faith healers he derided much then. I think he needs to get Mr Nyman back on board as soon as he can.
This show was badly executed, badly acted, tedious to watch and ultimately pointless.

Unless I've got it all wrong and Derren had taken a comedy direction. If so, Mr
Bean Vs Zombies was not a bad first comedic effort. It was a good parody and the hammy actors were truly hilarious!

Brace yourselves, another two-parter starts this Friday.

No thank you!

Fear and Faith, 'an extraordinary film looking at what happens when people have the experience of fear removed through the use of a powerful new drug'. Strange concept, I always thought it was fear which kept many of us from doing daft things and we, or others, possibly being injured or dying in the process. There's a YT trailer out which seems to show blokes arguing in pubs and then standing right on the edge of tall bridges - just like an average Saturday night in most cities and towns in the UK!

Is the drug Alcohol?

Apparently it's used by the military - so the answer is probably yes!

As with all the other shows I'm keeping an open mind until I've seen it.....

mdawg wrote:Is the drug Alcohol?

Knowing Derren's usual MO, the drug is probably this new wonder chemical they're calling "Placebo".

-Stacy

I shall no doubt end up reluctantly watching it either as it's broadcast, or online after the event, but I stand by what I said previously in that I feel he has lost the plot and has nothing new to offer.