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Hellcat wrote:Great post Infy, very informative.
i disagree that NLP is a one trick pony with regards to rapport being the only decent technique to be learned from it, there is much more to it, however i do agree that it is not the be all end all. it is simply one tool. you dont use a screwdriver to bang a nail in the wall
thedarkangel wrote:Hello
NLP is a Meta discipline. The greatest misconception about this sort of technology is that it is your demonstratee’s subconscious willing to participate; unfortunately this is about as far from the truth as one can get.
* Richard Bandler and *John Grinder put together a technology model from the earliest model portrayed in *Fritz Perls work on the subject. Early on, Richard and John realized that the technology could be used in many applications, as it is a Meta discipline which can be applied to both mentalism and hypnosis demonstrations.
However the common miss-conception is that performers like *Derren Brown and other modern mentalism performers play on the common public’s lack of knowledge to exploit this system. NLP It is about how the brain works and language that effects on ones state of learning. It is an educational tool, which can be harnessed to educate your audience in a non conscious manner, enabling startling effect. This Meta discipline means it works wherever anyone has a brain; I like to refer to this as Persuasive Engineering something our good friend *Derren Brown is very good at.
The art of Persuasion and NLP have been blurred somewhat within the fields, my advice if you want to learn this area is to get some business based selling NLP books, they are a fantastic place to start getting to grips with NLP as an overall subject. (Amazon being the best place for this, or your local bookstore)
The deeper you go with the subject the more you can unravel and the better you will be able to manipulate your demonstratee. The worst thing is however, that most people have taken parts of the basic technology and mixed it with other disciplines, and call that NLP also.
I have had the pleasure to have been involved on a few previous NLP course for "selling better for you audience needs". It is one of these weekend sales courses that your bosses always seem to be obsessed with sending you one. However I have learnt some valid points to use in my mentalism theory and practice.
Much love and energy
tda
* http://www.richardbandler.com/
* http://www.johngrinder.com/
* http://www.gestalt.org/yontef.htm
* http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/
mrgoat wrote:
Has there been any peer-reviewed, published research on NLP showing if it actually works or not?
magicofthemind wrote:mrgoat wrote:
Has there been any peer-reviewed, published research on NLP showing if it actually works or not?
As I said on page 4, this is a meaningless question. I can assure you that I have successfully used some NLP techniques on myself and with my hypnotherapy clients. I generally find that these techniques work better when combined with trance work, although that's not essential.
Barry
Tomo wrote:mrgoat wrote:Has there been any peer-reviewed, published research on NLP showing if it actually works or not?
There is not "it" in NLP.
mrgoat wrote:Oh sorry, I can see how that would totally change my question. Let me rephrase:
Has NLP ever been researched to show efficacy, peer-reviewed and this research published in any medical/scientific journals?
I've been looking and can find no actual studies.
Thanks.
Tomo wrote:mrgoat wrote:Oh sorry, I can see how that would totally change my question. Let me rephrase:
Has NLP ever been researched to show efficacy, peer-reviewed and this research published in any medical/scientific journals?
I've been looking and can find no actual studies.
Thanks.
Well, it's a little bit like asking if "the paranormal" has ever been tested (contentious example, but I'm a bit busy). NLP is an equally amorphous term. Because it's a loosely defined collection of techniques, language patterns and other ideas, it makes more sense to focus on one of these and find out whether it's been tested in vitro.
Tomo wrote:Well, it's a little bit like asking if "the paranormal" has ever been tested
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