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Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Ryan.A » Mar 27th, '14, 17:24



Hello everyone,

I've done a bit of research on impossible location effect and not sure which one is best as there is quite a few different effects on the market.

What is the best impossible location effect to purchase other than Clarity Box?

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby bmat » Mar 27th, '14, 20:58

There is no best. My favourite however is signed card under glass. Nothing to purchase except a deck of cards and if you don't know basic card handling a little audience management then any basic book on card technique. Simply brilliant and has withstood the test of time.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby soveda » Mar 27th, '14, 21:26

bmat wrote:There is no best. My favourite however is signed card under glass. Nothing to purchase except a deck of cards and if you don't know basic card handling a little audience management then any basic book on card technique. Simply brilliant and has withstood the test of time.

Agreed, this goes down really well and needs no props.
I like card to wallet (envelope or not) but signed card under glass gets jaws dropping.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Ryan.A » Mar 27th, '14, 21:50

soveda wrote:
bmat wrote:There is no best. My favourite however is signed card under glass. Nothing to purchase except a deck of cards and if you don't know basic card handling a little audience management then any basic book on card technique. Simply brilliant and has withstood the test of time.

Agreed, this goes down really well and needs no props.
I like card to wallet (envelope or not) but signed card under glass gets jaws dropping.


Hello thank you for your comment. Really appreciate it :)

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby fiftytwo » Mar 28th, '14, 13:36

Clarity Box isn't the best all-rounder for this. It's very good for what it is, but it doesn't suit all sorts of presentations.

Under glass, or in their pocket. Envelopes, wallets. Inside a lemon. Whatever works best for you, and you can make most magical.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Boris » Mar 28th, '14, 16:06

"Clarity Box" isn't an impossible location. An impossible location is one where an item shows up in an impossible place, which would be classed as a transposition. With the Clarity Box, there is already a card inside of the box and that card proves to be the card that was chosen - that is not a transposition (a transposition being defined by Dariel Fitzkee as a change in location). If the Clarity Box had nothing inside of it and then a card appeared and that card was the chosen card, then THAT would be an impossible location. Instead, the Clarity Box is a transformation (defined, again, by Fitzkee as being a change in appearance. character or identity) - a card already inside of the box transforms into the chosen card.

So what is the best impossible location that you can purchase on the market? Well, that trick doesn't exist. If it did, everyone would be doing it. No other impossible location effects would be up for sale because nobody would purchase them (because the best one is already there). I believe that fiftytwo, above, has given you the answer:

"Under glass, or in their pocket. Envelopes, wallets. Inside a lemon. Whatever works best for you, and you can make most magical."

What a simple answer. I've found that more often than not, in life, the simple answer is always the best and, not only that, 100% correct.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Ryan.A » Mar 29th, '14, 15:04

Boris wrote:"Clarity Box" isn't an impossible location. An impossible location is one where an item shows up in an impossible place, which would be classed as a transposition. With the Clarity Box, there is already a card inside of the box and that card proves to be the card that was chosen - that is not a transposition (a transposition being defined by Dariel Fitzkee as a change in location). If the Clarity Box had nothing inside of it and then a card appeared and that card was the chosen card, then THAT would be an impossible location. Instead, the Clarity Box is a transformation (defined, again, by Fitzkee as being a change in appearance. character or identity) - a card already inside of the box transforms into the chosen card.

So what is the best impossible location that you can purchase on the market? Well, that trick doesn't exist. If it did, everyone would be doing it. No other impossible location effects would be up for sale because nobody would purchase them (because the best one is already there). I believe that fiftytwo, above, has given you the answer:

"Under glass, or in their pocket. Envelopes, wallets. Inside a lemon. Whatever works best for you, and you can make most magical."

What a simple answer. I've found that more often than not, in life, the simple answer is always the best and, not only that, 100% correct.


Thank you so much for your comment. That's everything I needed to know :)

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby SpareJoker » Mar 31st, '14, 16:51

Signed card to impossible location, I presume?

I can recommend 'The Color of Money' from 'Scams & Fantasies' by Darwin Ortiz (NB. This routine does not appear on any of the DVD's).

The basic effect is that 3 spectators select and sign a card each. The cards are returned to the deck, which is then placed in the box. The box is put on the table and covered by the spectators hand. Without any cover, and with obviously empty hands, the performer then removes each spectators selected card from three different pockets.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby russpie » Apr 1st, '14, 17:22

I agree with the simple suggestions although I do own FOB & have used it sporadically. I think it's essential to say that the card has to be signed for it to be truly magical otherwise you may as well just use a dupe & the participants will suspect as much. If you have some decent sleights under your belt then it’s easy enough to come up with a short but structured multi-phase routine with a signed card jumping to the top, into your pocket, from your pocket back onto the deck, under a glass (twice in a row) ending up folded in your shoe or even into their own wallet without buying more props/gimmicks.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Ryan.A » Apr 1st, '14, 18:48

russpie wrote:I agree with the simple suggestions although I do own FOB & have used it sporadically. I think it's essential to say that the card has to be signed for it to be truly magical otherwise you may as well just use a dupe & the participants will suspect as much. If you have some decent sleights under your belt then it’s easy enough to come up with a short but structured multi-phase routine with a signed card jumping to the top, into your pocket, from your pocket back onto the deck, under a glass (twice in a row) ending up folded in your shoe or even into their own wallet without buying more props/gimmicks.


Hi I've also got FOB by David Penn. It really does get excellent reactions. Do you have any tips on other ways to use this routine?

What's your view on Clarity Box by David Regal? Have you personally used it?

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Lee Smith » Apr 1st, '14, 21:19

I use many,

I find, Card to wallet/envelope
Cell
Clarity box
Paper clipped

To be the strongest. I haven't tried fob

Also check out the box by Mark Southworth
And the light by Chris Congreave

Here is me doing clarity box. http://youtu.be/OBE631XusE8

Lee

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby daleshrimpton » Apr 1st, '14, 23:32

funny how so far most of the locations mentioned , are not that Impossible. :D

In my Smoking and keeping it real lecture, I discuss the possibilities of having that signed card turn up quite literally anywhere that an audience member chooses.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Ryan.A » Apr 2nd, '14, 01:12

Lee Smith wrote:I use many,

I find, Card to wallet/envelope
Cell
Clarity box
Paper clipped

To be the strongest. I haven't tried fob

Also check out the box by Mark Southworth
And the light by Chris Congreave

Here is me doing clarity box. http://youtu.be/OBE631XusE8" target="_blank" target="_blank

Lee


Thanks Lee for your comment much appreciated. Recently purchased The Unknown by Mark Bendell. You was great. Love your performance Bag4Life :)

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Lee Smith » Apr 2nd, '14, 07:04

Ryan.A wrote:
Lee Smith wrote:I use many,

I find, Card to wallet/envelope
Cell
Clarity box
Paper clipped

To be the strongest. I haven't tried fob

Also check out the box by Mark Southworth
And the light by Chris Congreave

Here is me doing clarity box. http://youtu.be/OBE631XusE8" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Lee


Thanks Lee for your comment much appreciated. Recently purchased The Unknown by Mark Bendell. You was great. Love your performance Bag4Life :)



Thank you.

Was one of my favourite projects to be involved with.

Marks a creative guy.

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Re: Impossible Location Effect Which One

Postby Ryan.A » Apr 2nd, '14, 07:16

Lee Smith wrote:
Ryan.A wrote:
Lee Smith wrote:I use many,

I find, Card to wallet/envelope
Cell
Clarity box
Paper clipped

To be the strongest. I haven't tried fob

Also check out the box by Mark Southworth
And the light by Chris Congreave

Here is me doing clarity box. http://youtu.be/OBE631XusE8" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Lee


Thanks Lee for your comment much appreciated. Recently purchased The Unknown by Mark Bendell. You was great. Love your performance Bag4Life :)



Thank you.

Was one of my favourite projects to be involved with.

Marks a creative guy.


I checked out your link. You performed Clarity Box very well :)

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