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by **magicbob123** » Jul 22nd, '14, 17:54

Hi guys, I am really looking forwards to hypnotising my first vict... erm... voulenteer. BUT I am just wondering about the ins and outs of how I should proceed. Any tips?

by **Mandrake** » Jul 22nd, '14, 18:30

Put Reality is plastic in the search function and check out the results. A superb piece of work and not exactly difficult :wink:

by **magicbob123** » Jul 22nd, '14, 18:48

I have read through RiP, just wondering if there are any tips you can give me, for example, who you might have started with and if you think that is best. That kinda stuff

by **magicbob123** » Jul 22nd, '14, 18:54

Or if there is a particular induction you would suggest

by **TonyB** » Jul 24th, '14, 03:00

It doesn't matter what induction you use (as long as your avoid long progressive relaxation inductions). The one in Reality is Plastic is fine. It is fairly much what I use every time now.

Project an air of complete confidence, and don't try it on family or friends. Try it on strangers. The first time I hypnotised people it was on stage, and I still think it is best to jump in at the deep end and go straight for the stage work. It is far easier.

And remember - your job as a hypnotist is not to put people into some weird state of mind. Your job is to get them acting on your instructions automatically and without question. Doesn't matter a damn whether you use a fancy induction or kidnap their granny. There is no distinct state of hypnosis, and a beginners mistake is to look for a trance. Don't. Look for them to do what you tell them. If you tell them that their hands are stuck together, and they are stuck, your job is done. What they are feeling internally, if anything, is immaterial.

by **magicbob123** » Jul 24th, '14, 08:22

Thanks, great advice

by **kartoffelngeist** » Jul 26th, '14, 20:43

TonyB wrote:And remember - your job as a hypnotist is not to put people into some weird state of mind. Your job is to get them acting on your instructions automatically and without question. Doesn't matter a damn whether you use a fancy induction or kidnap their granny. There is no distinct state of hypnosis, and a beginners mistake is to look for a trance. Don't. Look for them to do what you tell them. If you tell them that their hands are stuck together, and they are stuck, your job is done. What they are feeling internally, if anything, is immaterial.

One of the best quotes about hypnosis I've ever read.

I spent a long time doing 'pseudo-hypnosis', routining effects so that I'd be going through all the hypnosis stuff, but not bothering about trance or anything. Then found that it didn't really matter. As long as they're doing what I want them to, it works. Apart from anything else, how many people know what being hypnotised feels like? they have nothing to compare it to.

There's something I really love about asking someone to imagine they're hypnotised...

by **TonyB** » Jul 26th, '14, 23:51

kartoffelngeist wrote:There's something I really love about asking someone to imagine they're hypnotised...

So very very true. I once did a conference of aggressive sales people whom I knew would not by hypnotised. So I asked them to play a game of hypno-idol, and pretend they were hypnotised to fool the judges. We would eliminate the worst two. They all put in a huge effort, and I got a hypnosis show - full routines - with no induction, no trance, no fuss. And no fear of failure.

by **mark lewis** » Jul 29th, '14, 02:32

I know of a hypnotic induction where you say in the middle of it, "I want you to pretend that you are hypnotised. Now pretend that you are not pretending" I have used this myself on occasion. It works!

by **magicbob123** » Jul 29th, '14, 07:42

I beleive Ive seen Mr. Jacquin use a similar induction to the one you mentioned mark. I think he used it to teach someone self hypnosis.

by **Discombobulator** » Aug 15th, '14, 11:40

As you will discover in 'reality is plastic', and the wise words of Tony above, it is more about how you approach hypnosis rather than which induction you use.
If the subject believes you are a hypnotist then it will work. If you, yourself, do not believe it then it will not work.

I avoid phrases such as 'we will give it a try', 'lets see what happens' and 'I am not sure if.. but'
Instead you need to be confident. Use phrases such as 'Yes, You WILL be hypnotised, This will work, it will either work a little or a lot.'
Note: They have no idea how to measure how hypnotised they are and I rule out any possibility of 'failure'

At a wedding a girl came up to me and asked if I was a hypnotist. I said yes, took her hand and immediately told her that her hand was stuck to her head. It was.
She had already done the convincing, she already knew, inside her mind, that I was The hypnotist, so it all worked even without any induction.

Think about how you feel when you are driving a car. Normally you are not aware of your driving. But when there is a police car just behind you are suddenly conscious of your position, speed, signals, etc. Similarly if you are in the presence of someone you believe to be a hypnotist then you adopt the 'hypnotic subject' mode.

Mentioned above, you can use 'I have a friend who is a hypnotist, I dont know how he does it but he just asks them to image..... ' and talk them through an induction without them even realising you are performing an induction.

by **TheMentalist** » Aug 17th, '14, 06:20

Having a couple of pseudo-hypnosis effects ready really helped me with confidence when i started doing Hypnosis

by **mark lewis** » Aug 19th, '14, 19:11

It seems that our original poster is looking mainly for this new fad of impromptu hypnosis rather than doing it on a stage. Still if he ever decides to go the stage route I can recommend this:
http://www.lybrary.com/mark-lewis-hypno ... 21284.html

I know the author personally and have admired him my entire life.