Tricks with 10 cards or less!

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Tricks with 10 cards or less!

Postby FTHO » Apr 3rd, '16, 20:45



Hi Everyone,

I'm working on a 10 card poker routine... I've got a set of 10 cards from an antique deck of cards. Its all battered and lovely.

I was thinking about weaving a story around the cards (perhaps I found them at a market, or in my grandad's loft...). Normally when doing the 10 card poker I carry a rank of hands card in case anyone is confused. I was thinking I could tear a page out of an old or aged book of card games to keep with the set. I was also thinking of having an old looking poker chip to keep with them.
I'd keep everything together in an old and battered wallet.

For the presentation I was planning on playing it off as the mysterious properties of the cards. So I'm not cheating or influencing them to lose or anything like that... but if I use my grandads cards I can't help but win.

Then it occurred to me that the cards could perhaps have other properties. And I could mix some routines together to form a little routine.

So perhaps:

[*] Oil and Water (using 6 cards)
[*] A packet ambitious card
[*] A twisting routine
[*] Dr Daleys Last Trick
[*] A small packet version of Shuffleboard I learnt from Ryan Schlutz.


Different combinations of the cards produce different effects: If I take 3 red and 3 black I cannot mix them together... When I bring out the old poker chip I'll always get the winning hand.... etc.

I'm not planning to use all of these routines in one go! But just brainstorming ideas at the moment...

So basically I was wondering if anyone can suggest any other tricks which use 10 cards or less?

Cheers,

Sam

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Re: Tricks with 10 cards or less!

Postby Mark Wynn » Apr 4th, '16, 11:45

Try this. I have video recorded a couple of versions of this well known effect. This one is by my friend Jack Stephens who passed away about a year ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVdjUOhm38" target="_blank

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Re: Tricks with 10 cards or less!

Postby Mark Wynn » Apr 10th, '16, 08:20

Hi Sam, No doubt you are disappointed with the lack of suggestions for effects with 10 or less playing cards. I see the thread has received around 50 viewings.
Cheers. Mark

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Re: Tricks with 10 cards or less!

Postby SpareJoker » Apr 13th, '16, 13:54

'The Color of Money' uses 10 cards. It's a follow-the-leader effect by Darwin Ortiz. Appears in 'Scams and Fantasies with Cards' (book and DVD).

On the subject of the '10 card poker deal' also see 'Mexican Poker' (Ortiz, At The Card Table book & DVD).

On the use of 'antique'-looking cards - be careful with the presentation, as spec's may believe that the cards are 'special' in some way (e.g. marked).

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Re: Tricks with 10 cards or less!

Postby FTHO » Jul 24th, '16, 17:52

Sorry for the delay responding.
I'd been working on this for a while, then after posting I got distracted into another area of my life.

Hopefully getting back into this now.

Mark, thanks for your responses. I've never been a huge fan of that routine. I'm sure that it could be fun and playful in the right hands, but I'm not a fan of the "I can do it but you can't style routines", I don't think I can pull them off. Perhaps it could be varied to allow the spectator to succeed every time and I fail?
I'm not sure what you mean by your second post. It is a shame not to have more suggestions, but I've got something to be going with.

SpareJoker - thanks for your suggestions. Doesn't The Colour of Money use 10 red and 10 black cards? I don't have my copy of Scams with me to check... but I'm pretty sure. Although perhaps I could reduce some of the phases and try it with just 5 of each colour.

Mexican Poker was my first introduction to the 10 card deal. I've since tried to read as much as possible on the plot (including the enormous Bob Farmer 10 Card Deal Dossier) and I've come up with my own routine, just 3 phases long and the first 2 are taken directly from Mexican Poker.

I agree that the idea of special cards could be a problem. I hope to get around that by allowing them to handle the cards as much as possible. With them shuffling and dealing during the 10 card deal it should hopefully eliminate the thought of marked cards because they wouldn't help me anyway - when I'm performing for card players at least.



I wanted to carry this set to perform the 10 card deal, but I wanted to be able to use it with people who don't play cards as well... Hence the request for other routine suggestions.
As it happens, I've not yet had a chance to perform the 10 card deal with these cards (where have all my card playing friends gone?), but have just been using it for a few non gambling effects.
I've been regularly using them to perform an oil and water followed by Aces Up (by Stephen Hobbs) and ending with Dr Daley's Last Trick. This little routine has been going down really well, and the old cards are building up a lot of interest.



I've been keeping the cards in an old cigarette tin with an antique poker chip and an old £1 note. I'd quite like to come up with some ideas on how to use the poker chip and £1 note, as currently they are there just to add to the story of the cards.

Cheers Everyone!

Sam

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Re: Tricks with 10 cards or less!

Postby Mark Wynn » Jul 24th, '16, 18:39

Hi Sam,
Glad you have returned from wherever. You wrote: Mark, thanks for your responses. I've never been a huge fan of that routine. I'm sure that it could be fun and playful in the right hands, but I'm not a fan of the "I can do it but you can't style routines", I don't think I can pull them off. Perhaps it could be varied to allow the spectator to succeed every time and I fail? /

Well I think you have answered your own query. I don't think it can be done so that the spectator always gets it right but not yourself. As you saw in my clip, the spectator does get it right in the end. There are a couple of variations in the routine and I think Jack's version is a trifle harder ikin handling than some, including the version I use. Of course, standard sized cards would be used normally.

However, I can assure you that it really is great fun, especially if you get a group of folk all trying it at the same time. Most important that you DON'T appear to be the big-head and the spectator a fool. Presented as fun and greater fun when at the very last the spectator gets it and you don't. Please give it a try with a group of your mates and just make it FUN not a clever show-off. I'm sure you can 'pull it off'.
All the best. Mark.

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Re: Tricks with 10 cards or less!

Postby bmat » Jul 25th, '16, 16:57

Mark Wynn wrote:Try this. I have video recorded a couple of versions of this well known effect. This one is by my friend Jack Stephens who passed away about a year ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVdjUOhm38" target="_blank" target="_blank

Mark


This is often my 'go to' magic, when I'm really not wanting to perform but get cornered. A deck of cards a bunch of people participating, what can be better?

As for ideas. I perform and old chase the ace routine with old beat up cards. I explain how the set was found in Nevada just outside Vegas. Where they used to dump the bodies of card cheats. This was found in clutched in the skeletal hands of some long ago card cheat and rumoured to be possessed. They have been passed on to me from generation to generation.

Just an idea you may wish to play with only using 10 cards. You always win, so did our long ago card cheat, which is what eventually put him in the ground.

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