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bob70011 Junior Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 36 Location: THE SWEET USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: Best and worst |
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What was the Best and Worst trick you had ever brought?
Best:The Stealth Pen
Worst:Brainwave,Invisible |
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Captain Fantastic Preferred Member

Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 159 Location: Clacton aka The Garden of Hell : 39:SP
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Best trick (sort of) - The BCS system by Richard Osterlind. Absolute pure unadulterated genius.
Worst trick - Some trick that I can't remember the name of but uses colour changing poker chips and some brass thing. Absolute pants and definately not worth the 40 odd euros I paid for it!! Thinking about it, I think it was called 'Traffic Chip'! Total waste of money!! _________________ Lots of Love
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rumburak Full Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 62 Location: Berlin, Germany, (35:EN)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Best purchase: Mind Mysteries 2 from Richard Osterlind. It's not just the BCS system (any other memorized deck would do as well), but the entire routining and presentation which he lays out. I also like my ITR - although it took me quite some practice to get used to it. Actually, this was my first "real" magic effect.
Worst purchase: Well, there are a lot of things in my drawer catching dust. But I almost cannot find anything which is unusable. Even a 25 year old gimmick from a kid's magazine (a money printing machine) got a great reaction when I used it in a presentation about the National Debt and the effect of inflation.
There are a few things which I honestly find utterly useless: The worst is a pair of plastic matchboxes which is supposed to work by opening the drawer of the second while you close the drawer of the first. Thing is, the plastic matchboxes are totally unexaminable, suspicious looking and the drawers don't work. I got it for free and I must admit that even this way I had paid too much.
So there don't seem to be bad effects (except those that don't work mechanically). But presentations which don't use the items to their full potential. Bad performers can bore an audience to death with a genuine light saber, while brilliant performers can get an audience going without any props at all. |
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katrielalex Elite Member

Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 2545 Location: 16:AH (in hibernation! will try to check up here every so often though)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Best and worst |
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| bob70011 wrote: | Best:The Stealth Pen
Worst:Brainwave,Invisible |
I can't quite believe you're listing the Brainwave and Invisible decks as the worst effects you ever bought . I would call these two (well, one really) of the strongest effect in all of magic - speccy thinks of a card, only to find out that you've predicted it already. Why don't you like them.
Likewise, how is the stealth pen the best effect you have ever bought? I would call it a medium effect - strongish but there are better ones out there. This is a much more debatable opinion though, so feel free to argue with me about this .
Kati _________________ In hibernation but half awake - will stick my nose in every so often! |
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bob70011 Junior Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 36 Location: THE SWEET USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Best and worst |
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| katrielalex wrote: | | bob70011 wrote: | Best:The Stealth Pen
Worst:Brainwave,Invisible |
I can't quite believe you're listing the Brainwave and Invisible decks as the worst effects you ever bought . I would call these two (well, one really) of the strongest effect in all of magic - speccy thinks of a card, only to find out that you've predicted it already. Why don't you like them.
Likewise, how is the stealth pen the best effect you have ever bought? I would call it a medium effect - strongish but there are better ones out there. This is a much more debatable opinion though, so feel free to argue with me about this .
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about the stealth... i havent brought many tricks because i am mostly into card magic so the stealth is the best of what i have and about the brain, and invis i do not really like the reaction people give off compared to other gimmicked card tricks such as mirage or mental photography.... |
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Happy Toad Advanced Member
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1457 Location: Wolverhampton UK ..... ( 41 CP ) .....
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | about the brain, and invis i do not really like the reaction people give off compared to other gimmicked card tricks such as mirage or mental photography |
I'd suggest the fault lies with the presentation and not the deck. _________________ "Hodge scored for Forest after 22 seconds - totally against the run of
play" (Peter Lorenzo) |
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zigzag Preferred Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 149
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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thats really wierd....as soon as i whip out my mental photography deck and start on my routine i get people wanting to examine the deck and then i have to deck switch for my regular bike...but with invisble or brainwave everything looks just so innocent... ...as for the stealth pen...i have the perfect penetration effect and have to agree...it defenitely is quite an amazing trick, but i have to admit...i do break the rules and repeat the trick just one more time, just so their jaw can drop again....i love it _________________ -----
I AM CANADIAN!!!
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katrielalex Elite Member

Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 2545 Location: 16:AH (in hibernation! will try to check up here every so often though)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yes...the reactions for me with the invisideck are amazing. If I get out the mental photography deck, people think of it as a 'nice trick' but that's it - whereas the invisible deck, possibly because it looks exactly like a normal deck of cards, is much more convincing...
Kati _________________ In hibernation but half awake - will stick my nose in every so often! |
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Mandrake .

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Posts: 19000 Location: UK (62:AH)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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As HT says above, it's all in the handling. Without a good reason and routine Invisible Deck (or any other trick) is dead in the water. There are a lot of books out there giving routines using ID - even dear ol' David Blaine used one very succesfully and convincingly on one of his TV shows!
Give it another go Bob - it's worth it!  _________________ |
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Sam:monkey fist Senior Member
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 380 Location: Mansfield UK (27.SH)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Best : A DECK OF USPCC Bicycles (sometimes BEES)
Packet Trick : N F W it is The ONLY PACKET TRICK that i take out EVERY TIME. I have lost count how many times i've used it and i never get bored of it so simple yet so effective.
Worst : Raven x2. not practical for my Dress sense ( I'm nearly always in a T-shirt)  _________________ Missus - "Not another bloomin card Trick"
Me - "Yeah but this one involves a knife and your Hand"
Missus - "erm Show me another time I'm just about to do the ironing"
Me - "HEH HEH HEH Who needs Hypnotism"? |
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dat8962 Veteran Member

Joined: 29 Jan 2004 Posts: 8802 Location: Leamington Spa (47:Semi-Pro)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Best for me is a two and a half metre length of good quality rope (and a pair of scissors) and also agree with an ungimmicked deck of cards - blue bikes.
Best gimmick / packet trick - TT, invisible deck and twisted sisters.
I could go on for most of the night with these five items . Some of the most effective yet inexpensive things you could buy in my opinion.
Worst, any card tricks that use the sticky card principle (glue or ds tape). I just hate them  _________________ Member of the Magic Circle & The 2009 British Isles Close-Up Magician of the Year
It's not really an optical illusion - it just looks like one! |
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Zack Advanced Member

Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 1406 Location: Colchester, Essex (28:SH)
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Best: Heirloom & Heirloom Wallet. Spectators have no idea how to react to this. Delivered right, they're not really sure what's happened. Sheer wonderment on their face. It's brilliant. Buy it. Buy it now.
Worst: Shrinking cigarette case. Oh my god why oh why oh why did I buy it? It's shocking. Truly shocking. _________________ - Zack -
All art is quite useless.
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vic_vdb Senior Member

Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 491 Location: Tamworth, UK (52:WP)
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Best Cards: Brainwave, NFW, Invisble and Picture this
Best other: Rattle Bars, £1 to 1p, diebox and crystal silk tube.
Worst cards: boxed set of strippers with the claim that this would be the ultimate in magic! You know: bore your friends for hours advertising
Worst other: anything cheap that used apparatus like 'key through coin, etc."
Anything that 'requires no skill," and astounds everyone in seconds is usually avoided by me.
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gerbil Junior Member

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 47 Location: Moorhead, MN
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Best: scotch and soda, brainwave, invisble deck
Worst: Cheap plastic gimmicks excluding penetration frame |
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