Abyss (Ultimate Coin In Bottle)

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Postby tiggy49 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:28 pm



well im wondering if i can get the coin signed and if i can drink from the bottle instead of pouring everything out

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Postby mrfye » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:11 am

i know alot of people have said they where dissapointed but if preformed properly does it give a strong enought effect to reclect the cost

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Postby Mahoney » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:18 am

tiggy49 wrote:well im wondering if i can get the coin signed and if i can drink from the bottle instead of pouring everything out


Don't think it can be signed. (I dont have it but I think I nkow how it works). Yeah sure drink it why not.




I dont know why I keep answering questions on tricks I dont have :roll:

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Postby jittrbug » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:33 am

tiggy...
NO... coin can't be signed....
you also have to be picky about the coin you borrow, if that makes any sense to you....

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Postby bananafish » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:14 pm

ok, I have just deleted a post from this thread, but the type of message removed is also very common in other threads, so I would like to ask everyone to stop posting hints about how an effect is done.

If you have worked out how an effect works then please keep it to yourself. It isn't big and it isn't clever to boast about how you are going to make it up yourself, and worse still posting hints however subtle you think they are (and believe me 9 times out of 10, they arent subtle at all) won't be tolerated.

I also would like to say that the amount of fishing that goes on (not necessarily in this thread, but in general) is also unacceptable. I do appreciate that before we spend our hard earned monet on an effect, we do want to know certain things about it, if nothing else to judge if we feel it is something we can perform, however the fine line between this and fishing for a method so we can see if we can make it ourselves is unacceptable.

If you genuinely wish to know more about an effect, please phone a dealer and ask them. That way it is priovate between you and the dealer and anyone browsing these forums is not going to accidently going to stumble across a method.

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Postby jittrbug » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:35 pm

Edited by Mods. Please do not discuss methods here.
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coin in the bottle

Postby archimage » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:39 pm

Instead of all this talk of specifics as to how this trick is done, I will put my two cents worth and say that I did buy this trick and it is a good one. As with most tricks such as these, presentations sells most of it. I think it is a clever method and it has worked well for me.

I'd recommend it for stage or close up style magic, but not walk around as the gaff is too easily disrupted in uncontrolled environments.

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Postby jittrbug » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:58 am

ooopps,
mods......SORRY! didn't know I said something that wasn't common knowledge...

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Postby chris2215 » Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:49 pm

Guys,

As I have stated earlier in this thread, Abyss is not great for UK coin workers.

10p will not work (nothing to do with size!)
2p is too strong, therefore wont work (those who own it will know what I mean!)
1p - it might work, but the bottom line is it isn’t trapped inside the bottle forever, so not worth it for me!

What coins do you guys use?

Has anyone worked it with a 10p or 2p?

If these leads to exposure someone PM me. I am really eager to end my coin routine with a coin trapped inside the bottle for the spectator to keep forever, I don’t think Abyss is the solution, any help would be appreciated?!

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Postby grum7n7 » Mon May 29, 2006 3:05 pm

I have seen a some talk on the forum lately about Abyss and i just thought i would give people another review to look at :D

The Effect:
"You visually push a borrowed coin through an ordinary bottle. It is so visual people swear there must be a hole in the bottle. But the bottle is completely normal, free of holes of any kind. HAND IT OUT FOR THE SPECTATOR TO KEEP."
http://ellusionist.com/order/Abyss-Coin ... e.htm?cat=

Cost:
$13.50

Difficulty:
(1=easy to do, 2=No sleights, but not so easy, 3=Some sleights used,
4=Advanced sleights used, 5=Suitable for experienced magicians only)

2-3 (really low 3, definetly a 2 with a bit of practice...really only one sleight)


Review:
Personally, I think this is a good trick and if you are into this type of effect you should own this. It is a bit expensive and the gimmick ditch is a pain but if it is practiced enough its gets a lot easier. You can use pretty much any bottle you would like, be it glass or plasic. You can perform it with the top on and the contents of the drink inside the bottle but i suggest that you pour out the contents first. By doing this you are also telling the spectator that the bottle is empty without actually telling them. After the coin penetrates the bottle, the coin is permanetly stuck in the bottle forever! This makes a great keepsake for you spectators. Give it to one of them and let them fight over it :D


Overall:
This can be a great effect if performed properly and at the right time. This can be handed out as a momento for them to keep forever. And the best part is they will never find anything at all besides the coin permanetly stuck inside the bottle of course :D . The gimmick is really simple and the initial setup isnt as hard as many people make it out to be. It might take you a while the first time to set it up and by a while i mean about 10 minutes or less. And of course it gets easier and easier everytime. Its a great way to truely mystify your spectators and a good way to end your coin routine. If you are thinking about buying this, do it.

Rating:
8/10

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask me :D

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Postby jittrbug » Tue May 30, 2006 1:15 am

grum7n7.... i disagree with one thing... you CAN'T do it with a glass bottle

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Postby grum7n7 » Tue May 30, 2006 1:20 am

actually you can do it with some glass bottles...PM me and tell me why you think you cant..

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Postby Rich Lehmann » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:43 am

Does the quarter need to be shimmed or steel? If so that's a real let down.

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Postby Rich Lehmann » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:18 am

If that's the case, then saying you can give the coin and bottle away is really dishonest advertisement, if what you're really giving away is the/a $13 gaff.

Someone tell me this isn't the case because if it is there really should be a warning that you can't do the trick again if you do. Not to mention that if the coin is borrowed then the quarter really can't be inspected at all (or atleast 30-1 odds) if the person checked it before giving it to you, which they ALWAYS do.

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Postby Rich Lehmann » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:52 am

Oh, sorry, one more thing. Is it possible to use Abyss to get a 100% real ungimmicked quarter into a bottle? I know the illusion won't work but for a different trick I have in mind where a 100% real quarter just needs to be trapped in a bottle.

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