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Generation Extreme - Brian Tudor

Postby Biggz » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:24 pm

Generation Extreme - Brian Tudor

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£27.97 http://www.penguinmagic.com/europe/product.php?ID=938

What they say

Warning: Don't buy this DVD. Almost no one can actually do the stuff you're about to see. It's aggressive, showy, complex, impossibly fast, and freakish. Once you master it, your spectators may notice only one tenth of what they're supposed to see... and only one one-hundredth of what is actually happening. That's no way to live... pick up a svengali deck and be happy.

This is an instructional card magic DVD featuring routines that have won Brian Tudor International recognition as one of the leading card manipulators in the world. There are no camera tricks and everything is shown at actual speed.

Prepare yourself. You're going to have to watch each explanation hundreds of times before you start to get it. You'll have to practice even more before it looks good in your hands. In the process you'll drop tens of thousands of cards. Throughout your training you'll destroy five or more decks per day.

When Tudor performs, he just kinda does it. Like an Olympic athlete, he's performing a routine that's been practiced thousands of times leading up to this moment. When he's on stage his mind goes to a place where individual moves become instinctual... he doesn't have to remember to do a Riffle Pass one moment and a Throw Change the next, any more than he has to remember to breathe or flex his heart muscle sixty times a minute. Sports psychologists have a word for this place--they call it THE ZONE.

If a stranger walked up to us and asked if we'd recommend this DVD, we'd say no. We'd say he'd probably hate it. We'd guess that he's probably nowhere near skilled enough with cards, or devoted, or focused enough even to appreciate it. You have to earn this DVD. It's not for everyone. It's probably not for him, and it's probably not for you. But if you are one of the few who MUST be at the cutting edge in the development of visual card magic, there is nothing we can say to keep you away from this DVD. And that being said, this is probably your best resource for what's new with cards.

Difficulty
Mostly 4 to 5. But some routines are about 3.
(1=easy to do, 2=No sleights, but not so easy, 3=Some sleights used,
4=Advanced sleights used, 5=Suitable for experienced magicians only)


Routine Reviews

This DVD teaches many cuts, sleights and flourishes. They are all taught via one of the 6 routines included...

Show Off Difficulty: 5 (but there are some basic flourishes hidden within ;) )

Taught:
    The Waterfall.
    The Upside-down Spring.
    Pressure Fan.
    One-handed Fan.
    One-handed Revolution (false).
    One-handed Revolution III.
    Turn Over Cut.
    One-handed Revolution II.
    YTBN Cut.
    Castro Cut.
    Revolution Cut.
    Bad Habit II with Split Fans.
    Swing Cut.
    Speed Cut.
    What the Hell? (Happened to Sibil)
    Tudor Cut
    Perfect Rifle Shuffle
This routine isnt a trick so to speak, but rather, as the title suggests just to "Show Off." With most of these flourishes i have no chance of learning but it's sure fun watching him do it all at full speed.

Triumph 3 Difficulty: 3

Effect: Face up cards and face down cards are shuffled. At the end chosen card is facing the opposite way from the entire deck.

Taught:
    Pull Through
    Tudor Shuffle
    Half Pass
I'm not sure i'd call this a "Full Length Routine" as the DVD cover suggests but it's a nice simple Triumph effect. I've learnt a new false riffle shuffle from this. And i can do this one! ;)

Follow the Queen Difficulty: 4

Effect: Four red backed queens are shown then one by one they jump from one hand to another. Climax is visibly changing the packet of four red cards into blue backed cards, then showing them to be aces.

Taught:
    False Count
    Top Palm
    Brian Tudor Right Hand Production
    Paul David Muck
The Man from New York Difficulty: 3

Effect: Face up and face down cards are mixed together. The deck is cut four times, each time finding an ace. Afterwards the deck is shown to be all face down.

Taught:
    Strip Cut
Hmmm again, another trick i wouldnt call a full routine. But now I'm trying to remember what the pengiun magic website said about this DVD . . . Warning: Don't buy this DVD. Almost no one can actually do the stuff you're about to see. It's aggressive, showy, complex, impossibly fast, and freakish. This entire routine is absolutely nothing like that. I must admit i do like the look of this showy,complex, and freakish effect when done impossibly fast. Well, when done quickly anyways :D

Hypnotic Difficulty: 5

Effect: Basically Ambitious Card.

Taught:
    Middle Nostalgia Center Pop-out
    Terry LaGerould Swingset Control
    Center-to-Bottom Control
    Aaron Fisher Pop-out
    Dribble Pass
    One Handed DL
    Riffle Pass
    Terry LaGerould Swingset Control Variation
    Top Palm Production
    3rd and 4th Finger Palm Production
    Double Production
    Hot Shot Cut
    Ambitious Sandwich
    Terry LaGerould Swingset Control (On the table)
    Brother John Hammin Turnover Move
This is more like it! Back to the difficult stuff :D I love ambitious card routines, and i love watching this one. I just think the ending is a bit naff because, to me, he ends on an effect which isnt as good as just about everything he's just done. Otherwise brilliant!

The Politician Difficulty: 4

Effect: Two cards constantly switching. Not quite sure how to describe it better than that :P

Taught:
    Steve Forty Blackjack Turnover
    Paul David Revolution Change
    Spring Change
    Throw Change

Some very nice card switches are taught in this routine. Fun to watch also.

Overall 7.5 out of 10

Let's start with Brian Tudor, he's very, very good with the cards. Unfortunately he doesnt teach that well. However, maybe it appears this way because of the way the DVD was produced. There were no alternative angles showing the moves. Sorry, there was one alternative angle, and that was when he was teaching a palm and he physically turned around to show it that way.

Another gripe with the production is that you can only select the start of the Routines from the scenes menu. After recent DVD purchases which allow you to jump directly to individual teachings, i expect that as a minimum. It really does get boring wanting to watch the Pull Through and having to watch Brian perform Triumph 3 first, then get into set up of the effect, before showing the Pull Through.

I bought this DVD because i loved wathing the video demo for it. I really didnt expect to be able to learn much from this. Apart from the Show Off routine, i can see a lot of it being do able (for me) with a lot of practice.

I'm also really confused why they called Triumph 3 and The Man from New York Full Length Routines and also whey they're included on this impossible to perform DVD. They'd be better suited to instant download effects.

Brian shows his routines without any patter, and for me, that was good. All too often, after watching a dvd, i've had another magicians patter in my head when working through an effect. I found it much easier coming up with patter, i might even start muting the performance sections of DVDs from now on :)
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Postby bananafish » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:44 am

Thanks for the full and indepth review biggz. It certainly looks like one for the more experienced cardician, although by all accounts (looking at the file sharing section) we have many here who are up to that level.
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generation extreme - brian tudor

Postby hangman1 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:21 am

some great stuff on here, not to keen on his teaching style though.
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Postby FlipBack » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:24 pm

I watched the video preview for this video and was actually turned off by it. He was going much, much to fast for me to even see what trick, if any was being performed. He would do card switches and I wouldn't even notice since he did them so fast. Plus I have heard lots of complaints about the teaching style of Brian. I will stick with De'vo which I consider to be more of a true card manipulator rather than doing numerous cuts at high speed. I am not really impressed by this video, granted Brian can certainly move the cards very well at high speeds.
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Postby Stephen Ward » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:10 pm

I agree, great stuff but bad teaching style. I know a few of those moves but there are far better teachers around (IMHO)
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Postby dat8962 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:39 pm

I'd rather learn how Rune does his magical work with cards than learn how to fling a deck around my fingers and achieve little else.

I'm not saying that it isn't impressive to watch (at least for a while) but magic it isn't.

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Postby Demitri » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:31 am

Dat, I'd agree with you on most of what you said. However, that kind of thing tends to go towards the De'Vo crowd. Tudor is kind of a cool mix, for me, since he incorporates his moves into actual routines.

But I agree, flash for flashes sake doesn't do it for me, either.
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Postby kems » Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:33 am

dat8962 wrote:I'd rather learn how Rune does his magical work


how about I Rune.... fancy making your own dvd.... I would like to see it :) actully i might not like to see it! it would depress me seeing the ease you do the moves and noing how much you are doing! (without me seeing!) :roll:
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Postby FlipBack » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:28 pm

Demitri wrote:Dat, I'd agree with you on most of what you said. However, that kind of thing tends to go towards the De'Vo crowd. Tudor is kind of a cool mix, for me, since he incorporates his moves into actual routines.

But I agree, flash for flashes sake doesn't do it for me, either.


Yeah unfourtunatly if he would only slow down his moves so that I could actually see his routine and appreciate the tricks. All he trys to do is run thought it as fast as possible. That is why he has that challenge posted about paying anyone who can do it faster then him.
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Postby dat8962 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:19 pm

It's for this reason that I'm skeptical as to whether or not the footage is shown in real time or is actually speeded up slightly.
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Postby hugh » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:56 pm

It's for this reason that I'm skeptical as to whether or not the footage is shown in real time or is actually speeded up slightly.

this is true!
finally someone who agrees! :D :D :D
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no offense

Postby Pyro Ellvelin » Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:38 pm

no offense yeah but some of you really know how to suck up
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Re: no offense

Postby Jacques » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:52 pm

Pyro Ellvelin wrote:no offense yeah but some of you really know how to suck up


Well, there is no way you could have possibly sounded offensive there :roll:

Back to the matter at hand. I don`t think any lay person could experience any of those routines as magic in any way. They would probably sit there and think,'Wow, this guy is fast with his hands' but that is in no way magical in my opinion.

I would much rather the routines appear as 'moveless' as possible, the audience should have no clue as to when a 'move' happens and everything should look as natural as possible.

By that I mean, you should handle cards like a lay person. There is no need to do fancy displays when doing DL`s for example. Just turn it over and lay it on top of the deck. No piece sticking over, no fancy display to show it, just natural.

Many have you have already said this, 'why run when you are not being chased' and it definitely looks like Brian is running from something in these performances :P
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Postby TheMightyNubbin » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:44 pm

I agree - I like Tudor's pure flourish stuff - and he has awesome skill in his routines - I just wonder how a lay audience would appreciate this stuff as much versus a magi.

Basic 101 of magic - the effect happens in the spec's head - it happens so fast with Tudor's stuff how can the magic 'settle' in a spec's head to create the maximum impact?

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Postby PapaG » Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:09 pm

If you slow the performance speed right down, can this stuff look like regular magic as opposed to a confusing but impressive blur?
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