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warcrime
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Sorry to grave dig threads more than a month old, but I have serious reservations about this Criss Angel guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00DvURJtn5o
I posted this on another forum to get more informed opinions, but I've got more than an aquaintance with hypnosis and I'm pretty sure in advance this is utter bullshit.
The effectiveness of subliminal messages is disputable - even when the method is given credence its impact upon a person's behaviour is regarded as low. Take a look at the wiki entry for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_message (google more scholarly articles on their effectiveness if you like)
I'm not an expert, but maybe if the delivery was coupled with an actual trance state, then due to heightened suggestability subliminal messages' efficacy would be higher. Again, I don't know, but this guy is inducing instant sleep with nothing but subliminals in an "hypnotic flyer"?
All the subjects there must be stooges. Honestly, if it worked like that, we wouldn't be dropping those crappy propaganda leaflets over Iraq. |
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FRK
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It insults my intelligence…
Banachek and LJ should know better.
This is not magic its just rubbish… But then again thats USA TV for you…
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warcrime
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, you and me both. By the way, I'm not saying that stooges have no role to play in magic performances, but replacing skill and ingenuity with a bunch of actors surely can't really be considered magic? |
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aceberserker
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Conman |
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Yes, that bloke is just a money making conman. We could all look good on a dvd etc with a little camera trickery. For example; his levitation trick would not allow for people to be positioned infront of you. He sucks ass.
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Demitri
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Neither does the Balducci, ace - but it's still used all the time. Actually, quite a few levitations require angle management - do they all "suck", too?
It also bears mentioning that crude language like that can tend to diminish your point, not enhance it. |
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azraelws6
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to say that Criss Angel has dissappointed in some respects with some of his TV effects would be an understatement, but please aceberserker, don't insult the levitation illusion, because that shows ignorance. It's actually quite brilliant.
What would it take to impress you, for him to really fly??? |
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aceberserker
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: Levitation |
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Don't tell me what I can and can't do, you aren't big enough. Secondly; I was referring to the crappy levitation trick he does on the mindfreak dvd, where he sticks his leg out from his pants. It just proves that the people on the dvd that are seated infront of him are planted there. Remember, don't try to command me, I'm no child. And we all are entitled to our own opinion, this is mine. Got that?
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I.D
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Levitation |
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| aceberserker wrote: | | * the stuff he said * |
If thats not exposure I dont know what is.. You really need to be careful when you speak about methods!!
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azraelws6
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Levitation |
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| aceberserker wrote: | | Don't tell me what I can and can't do, you aren't big enough. Secondly; I was referring to the crappy levitation trick he does on the mindfreak dvd, where he sticks his leg out from his pants. It just proves that the people on the dvd that are seated infront of him are planted there. Remember, don't try to command me, I'm no child. And we all are entitled to our own opinion, this is mine. Got that? |
If you're not a child....then don't act like one. I didn't "command you", nor tell you what you "can or can't do". I ASKED you politely, and even included a "please".
But now I will tell you what you cannot do, and that is post a message exposing one's methods or one's tricks. Got that? |
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aceberserker
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Levitation |
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| azraelws6 wrote: | | aceberserker wrote: | | Don't tell me what I can and can't do, you aren't big enough. Secondly; I was referring to the crappy levitation trick he does on the mindfreak dvd, where he sticks his leg out from his pants. It just proves that the people on the dvd that are seated infront of him are planted there. Remember, don't try to command me, I'm no child. And we all are entitled to our own opinion, this is mine. Got that? |
If you're not a child....then don't act like one. I didn't "command you", nor tell you what you "can or can't do". I ASKED you politely, and even included a "please".
But now I will tell you what you cannot do, and that is post a message exposing one's methods or one's tricks. Got that? |
You will not tell me what I cannot do, I will do as I please. You most certainly wouldn't dare tell me to my face, and I didn't expose his method. I may have been talking about his middle leg, which you seem to lack. Enjoy your bit of self deluded internet power, got that?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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aceberserker please dial down the testosterone your not going to win friends with this attitude even if you were rightly offended.
please reread the forum rules about personal attacks on members both of you. 
please also take note in particular concerning rule 3.
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| magicdiscoman wrote: | | aceberserker please dial down the testosterone... |
Reading the post, I would rather vote for estrogene (oestrogene) but that's just a wild guess  Don't yell at me if it's wrong!
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aceberserker
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: Morons |
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I have never met a more unfriendly bunch of women in my life. You have all tried to gang up on one person because of their opinion, sad.
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aceberserker
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: HA! |
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| gunnarkr wrote: | | magicdiscoman wrote: | | aceberserker please dial down the testosterone... |
Reading the post, I would rather vote for estrogene (oestrogene) but that's just a wild guess Don't yell at me if it's wrong! |
You would know, your body is riddled with it.
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I.D
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Are you on medication??
Seriously, chill out.. No one is being unfriendly. Believe it or not they are tyring to help.. apparantly to demonstrate some basic manners.
This is a forum. Please respect people. Its fine to have an opinion but to personally attack anyone other than David Blaine is just wrong!!
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