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Cmon it is fast hands. Think about it, you cant exactly do this if you do it slowly can you? And if theres no gimmick coin or glass then its just pure slieght of hand work.

Yep, it's fast hands and practice.

Pyro Ellvelin wrote:Cmon it is fast hands. Think about it, you cant exactly do this if you do it slowly can you? And if theres no gimmick coin or glass then its just pure slieght of hand work.

It is not fast hands. If you can do the trick you will know what I mean

If you have Richard's Almanac (and if you don't you're missing out), then this is in there. Michael Weber I believe

Cheers

Shanester

I do not like this trick as it is far to easy to figure out. I did, just from seeing the video once. So did tones of others. The E forums were flooded with people saying they learnt it just from the video.

yep, I figured it out from watching the vid too....
can easily do the flat palm version....
haven't bothered to try the other version (holding the coin by the edge) because the effect just doesn't look that impressive to me... I've fooled most people with it, but a couple have said they can see it happen...
the snapple bottle version is more convincing but I personally just don't think the results are worth the practice it would take to perfect it...

I dont think its to easy to work out for a layperson but i worked it out after one time of watching. I think its quite a clever method, though

Pitto

Ok... i got a good report the last week at school, and my lovely mummy has promissed to buy me a new trick around the £15 mark. I havn't got long to decide what to gte, but this does look very neat and tidy. I can work out how to do the flat palmed version, but i cannot get my head around the other effects.
I'd like another coin effect along the same lines as coin in soda, just to "explain and demonstrate" the theory of the tricks.
Basically, is it worth the £10-£15 or will it be money wasted?

Thanks

Ben

the thing I have trouble with is that they say the technique is invisible, that you could do it a hundred times and the specs won't figure out how you do it..... wrrrooooonnnnggg!

downhill, personally, I think it would be wasted money. I don't know what to recommend to you, but this seems more like a pub trick than a magic effect...
you might be better off putting your money toward Bobo's coin book or the Royal Road, and learning some real magic instead of buying a bunch of single tricks like this....
just my humble opinion....

Does anyone else have any views on this? I can see where you are coming from jittrbug.
Slightly off topic, but do you think that money would be better spent on something like Mercury?

thanks guys and sorry for the hi-jack

Ben

Downhill_ben wrote:Does anyone else have any views on this?
Ben

I'm not sure whether the best place for this is here (opinion is divided - perhaps this might add an another factor to any decisions), or Support & Tips. But I imagine that to make those kind of calls is why God created mods.

Right, first off, I too wasn't impressed by this effect. I figured it out instantly, first time I saw it. This didn't make me feel that I was deeply clever, it rather made me conclude that the method was so obvious that no one would be fooled - even the layest lay person would watch and then say, at best, 'Golly. You executed that well.' Still, thinking that it was an impromtu thing that might amuse a small child sometime, I had a little try at it. In an attempt to sell it better, I added a bit at the end. My thinking was that you need to suggest to the spec that the glassy barrier is as nothing to you, powerful magician that you are. A way to imply this would be to show you can still control the coin even when it's inside the glass. So - watch the end of the vid. I've just knocked this off now, and rushed it to keep the file size down. In reality, I'd pause longer after the penetration, showing the spec the glass/coin better, then spin my finger away - as one would if one were spinning a wheel. Except what you 'actually' spin is the coin, around inside the glass - suggesting that you still have control of it. (It looks better in real life - appearing to be completely down to your finger whipping around the outside of the glass: the unmoving frame of the video rather gives the game away here.)

The very best thing (tricky to see on a tiny vid - so I didn't bother trying for it - but splendid in living Britain) is if you do the penetration so as to have the coin 'go dead through the glass'. That is, little or no movement on its part. It's still 'on' your finger (and Daniel Garcia's Coin Through Cigarette Packet was in my mind a little here): it's not immediately apparent that the coin has penetrated the glass at all. Pause a couple of beats, display, and then do the spin thing, and I'd reckon half the people watching would think that was the moment when the penetration took place. I think this presentation takes Infusion away from, 'Er... that's obvious,' and more towards, 'That's utterly impossible.'

I repeat, this me suddenly grabbing the camera just now and slapping out a hurried version of an effect I haven't practised anywhere near sufficiently. I apologise for its roughness - it's simply so you can see what I mean, then do it (properly) yourselves. I think that, when you do that, you'll see that it helps the effect.

http://microurl.com/290188145

Because I instantly sussed it (and thought everyone else would) I didn't buy Infusion. If this little subtlety nudges someone who also wouldn't have bought it into doing so now, then I will sleep better tonight.

That works for me - nice touch!

sexton that does add a really nice touch to it...good idea

I watched the video, I instantly knew how it was done, as I had done similar effects before.

I pickup a glass and a coin, try it out and... Smash. I shattered the glass.



It is fast hands, but apparantly, you can't have too fast hands