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There was nothing "extra" in treating specs like that...maybe extra stupid and extra rude...

maybe i didnt explain that very well. um ... from talking to him it doesnt apear that he is like that but i spose thats hard to know through Emails.

I think rinsing your audience can be an absolute winner (if you lmow how to do it well and professionally). Its superiority theory at its best - people laugh because your not taking the mick out of them! I've studied a bit of Ancient comedy in the past and what applied then is still fair game now. If you've been to any stand up comedies, you'll know EXACTLY what I mean - and I think all magicians can learn an absolute multitude from a good stand up comedian.

Ive never seen this guy perform (does anyone have any links where I can see some of his stuff) but this 'bobby' incident that everyone seems to be going on about was probably an attempt at improv 'ripping the c*** (not the best)' out of someone but couldnt think of something that amusing to come up with at the time. A lame joke possibly, although something which could have been turned funny if he played on it a lot.

Regards,

Alex

Yes, Alex; you're right. For example I love Bill Malone. He kinda messes with the audience a lot more than D. Garcia; but I like Mr. Malone more than Daniel. Why? Because he is doing it for entertainment not to insult the audience for nothing. But Garcia's situation just seem a lot different & unreasonable to me, that's all.

Ultimatecreate, look on Ellusionist and search garcia his vids are there

will do

I think you guys are TOTALLY right... i have NO idea what im doing...


and to the "Man" on here who seems to "know" everything about my attitude towards spectators... get your facts right... then come and tell me how to act.

i think its funny how some people in the magic community think that they know EXACTLY how a performer should act. Think that there way is THE WAY it should be. Everyone has a different style... yours may suit you ... and mine suits me...so ill go ahead and keep doing magic for a living... and ill keep performing they way that i have for years...so far it seems to work.

Daniel Garcia

P.S .... to those who "understand" what i did on the projects...and why (Yes!!! there is a reason) i thank you for taking a deeper look into the DVDs... and understanding what Paul Harris and i have conversations about.

I agree with Daniel here. Look He is a pro making a living from his magic and from that very fact you can see that for him this approach does work, otherwise he wouldnt use it.

I enjoy his material and his performing style and look forward to seeing more from him in the future.

- On a side note, anyone know where i can look into the stuff performed in the introduction montage of the original Torn vhs? or is it Daniels own unreleased matieral? I am particularly interested in that corner restoration.

DS wrote:I agree with Daniel here. Look He is a pro making a living from his magic and from that very fact you can see that for him this approach does work, otherwise he wouldnt use it.

I enjoy his material and his performing style and look forward to seeing more from him in the future.

- On a side note, anyone know where i can look into the stuff performed in the introduction montage of the original Torn vhs? or is it Daniels own unreleased matieral? I am particularly interested in that corner restoration.

I think its his own personal stuff.

Not having seen the DVD I can not make a judgement call on whether or not Daniel's use of calling the spectator by a different name was wrong. However I will add my thought on this.

Misdirection, imagine a magician coming up and performing something for you. He calls you Fred, you object and think nothing of it. He calls you Fred again, now you wonder if the guy is sane. The moment you start to wonder is the moment you have suffered from misdirection. Its an awesome misdirecting routine. Dont put it down to stupidity, psychology is effective when its subtle!

Also I think this particular gag is a joke on the performer, as he can't seem to remember the guys name!

I didn't want to attack D. Garcia's showmansip or directly to himself here. I just think this move is wrong no-matter why he did that.

Misdirection was a good point, gag isn't - because it isn't that funny if a stranger don't remember your name. There was a post about this on E site, and I know some of you guys already a member of the E forums please check it out. It's about seeing yourself from the audience's eyes. I think that person didn't find this funny, he just felt sorry about the performer. And for misdirection, this move doesn't require any misdirection, and if you want to use misdirection; there are better ways for it. Should I slap the people on street when they stick their card into the deck? It will be a great misdirection, if I kick them I'll do my filty 10 second pass they won't see anything; no one can say anything because it's my personality.
That magic was not for us, it was for that person; and he didn't know what was going on. We were just watching them to see how the bit is.

I gave Bill Malone example, because he does this kind of stuff; and even worse then this. But it's ok, because you GO to his show, you enter at his domain, you know his personality, you know that's an act and you laugh with the others. But if you do this kind of stuff (which Mr. Malone did) in street, that'll be a little harsh. Because you approach to people's terretory.

For last, I don't know anything about magic, misdirection, and showmanship; as I don't know English well. I don't perform magic, I don't have a dvd on the shelves so I'm not saying to D. Garcia not to act like that. If I want to do that, I would just send him an email. These are MY thoughts on this situation and I'm glad I wasn't alone. When I learn more about those areas, my thoughts will change..

GaMeR wrote:When I learn more about those areas, my thoughts will change..

My thoughts are constantly evolving, if they didnt I would be stuck in a rut and would never learn. Even the best never stop learning. Keep it up Gamer, you are doing the best you can!

That torn corner trick is called Torn Too. Its very cool.

On the rudeness issue i am afraid i was one of the people that laughed at DG...

I don't know if thats bad, but it was funny. Who cares anyway, you don't miscall names thats fine, do what you want.