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Postby e2x2e » Sep 4th, '06, 13:34



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Postby Brookish » Apr 8th, '07, 11:27

Great trick, lovely effect! No one will ever work it out! Completely worth every penny!

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Postby shaneking » Apr 22nd, '07, 19:03

I love the principle upon which this trick works. However, I do believe that the brainwave deck is superior. The reaon being that all the cards are shown face down and their card is the only face up card, and without giving the secret, menas that you are amazing at locating the right spot ! You have no reference. Also, you have the double kicker in that once they have recovered from the miracle, you show them the reverse of this card and it has a different colour back to the rest of the deck. If it is a red card (and these have red backs) then I ask the spectator what colour card they chose. When they say "red" I immediatelt turn it over and say "correct" and they are floored.

I would say though that the Tiger ID is superior for night clubs etc where there is ultraviolet light. This makes the black tiger deck really stand out and looks so flash that the superiority of the brainwave deck can be forgotten about.

I keep both on me in leather wallets with clips so I can keep both on my belt. I have worked with Brainave/Invisible decks for over 12 years and nobody has ever guessed the secret. If they were examinable then this trick would be the perfect trick.

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Postby coash » May 16th, '07, 14:12

I don't like the story of getting the spectator to imagine shuffling a card or whatever

anyone got better stories

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Postby Tomo » May 16th, '07, 14:21

coash wrote:I don't like the story of getting the spectator to imagine shuffling a card or whatever

anyone got better stories

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Postby Lady of Mystery » May 16th, '07, 14:42

I present it by asking them to think of any card and then telling them that I had a dream last night in which I saw myself performing for them. In that dream I asked them to name me any card. Before leaving the house I turn that card face down in the deck.

Then reveal in the usual way. I find that works quite nicely.

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Postby Tenko » May 16th, '07, 19:26

I have both decks, but I think that the finish is stronger with th ID. With Brainwave they see their card appear face up as you go through the deck but with the ID you fan through all the cards and only one is face down. I externd it forward as I go through the deck and when I get to the end and show that no other card is face down I invite them to remove the card and look at it. Its a much stronger finish when they have the card in their hand at the end when its revealed as opposed to it just appearing in your fanned cards.

Another bit of polish, take the deck from your pocket and toss it onto the table without looking at it (this works for both decks), but ensure that the flap hinge is at the top. Do it cassualy but don't look at the deck. Go on with the rest of the effect until you come to going through the cards. Now for those in the know, and you'll have to buy a deck to know, there are two ways to go from here. If the deck is the right way round simply remove it and nothing will appear amis. However, if the deck is the wrong way round, pick up the pack and turn it over, no one will think anything amis, they will simply think that you put the deck upside down when you tabled it.

If you put the deck on the table with the flap opening upermost and then have to turn it over it looks real shabby. So does holding the deck in your hand till the last minute, looks fishy. Get it out in the open long before you do the effect.

As for the effect ...
Get the spectator to name a suit, get them to ring a mate on their mobile to give the value of the card, and then reveal it.
Get the spectator to ring a mate and give them a suit, then ring another mate and get its value, then reveal it.
Get the spectator to name a suit and choose someone at random in the pub. Get someone else to go over to this chosen person and tell them that you are a magician and need their help. When they come over ask them to name the value of the suit chosen by the first spectator and then reveal it.

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Postby Brookish » May 16th, '07, 20:57

coash wrote:I don't like the story of getting the spectator to imagine shuffling a card or whatever

anyone got better stories


I sometimes just use another normal deck, tell them to choose any card, shuffle, put it in upside down and back in the box without me seeing. Then I place that box on top of my i.d. box and say abracadabra :lol: and tell them that their very same card will now be upside down in my pack too....

Hope that helps.

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Postby nameless » May 16th, '07, 22:46

I'm not a pro, just do stuff for friends etc. but the best rection I ever had from an ID was when I did it off the cuff, totally nonchalant. I finished off the effects I was doing and started packing everything away, then brought out the ID..."oh yeah, almost forget...just name a card."

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Sometimes simple is best I reckon.

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Postby coash » May 17th, '07, 09:47

for the reset - what if people know which side you put the cards back into the box

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Postby Brookish » May 17th, '07, 14:21

I always put a joker on each side so they both look face down, you can just slip them back into the box and fiddle around with it later or pretend you forgot the joker and slip it to the back... that's what I do.

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Postby coash » May 23rd, '07, 05:43

I bought a normal deck to compliment the ID

so when they get the card, suprise, then put back in the deck, do I then just put the deck in my pocket and if they want to see the deck I take out the normal one?

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Postby Surfing Dude » May 27th, '07, 19:28

I love the ID, just because it is one trick that i have no worries that it will go wrong, and if someone says "i suppose you can't do that again..." i can totally disagree and pretend I'm making a change to the deck :roll:

I've got a pretty good idea of how the brainwave deck works and i think i would prefer the ID...either way, you can't go wrong with this trick and it's a extremely good buy.

And in my routine, i try to make it seem as if I'm manipulating the spectactors mind.... :? but i mean theres so many ways to do it....

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Postby beeno » May 28th, '07, 14:42

coash wrote:for the reset - what if people know which side you put the cards back into the box

No one will notice that.
But if they're watching you putting them back into the box, then how do you explain how the card turned over?
If you really need to repeat it. Then turn away from the spectator as you pretend to turn a card over in the pack, so that they can't see which card you turned.

And the way I present this is, I'll say that I'm going to influence the spec to choose a card, but they must try their hardest to not be influenced by me. Then I patter on for a bit, adding in the odd number and colour here and there. Then just hit them with the reveal.

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Postby Johnny Wizz » May 29th, '07, 09:18

Elastic band the card box closed. Seal the deck in an envelope.
Tie the envelope up in string. Toss the whole package on the table at the start of your routine in front of a spectator and ask them to look after it. When you get to your ID piece tell the spectators to choose a card between them and leave the room while they do it. Get the spectator to unwrap the package and the first time you ahndle it is when you take the cards out of the box.

Just one of thousands of ways you can make this trick totally unbelievable but my current favourite.

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