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With this, even if you think you are, you're not really paying for the secret of the vanish, but for a fairly good lesson in one of the fundamentals of magic.

If you saw the demo video, and couldn't work out how it was done (I couldn't, even though I've used some similar ideas in other vanishes), then you will probably benefit from the ideas on the video, even if it is a bit padded, and arguably overpriced.

I find it a bit restrictive in terms of personal style, and don't like the unnatural positions of the hands during the vanish, but it did fool me. I think it just shows how strong good misdirection can be. It's probably healthy to be taken back to school every now and then.

I seem to recall thinking it was quite good, but my video/media player has thrown a wobbly about copy protection since I upgraded my computer. The dumbass broken DRM copy protection may be something worth considering regarding the download (windows/media player based DRM is clearly not ready for general commercial use), although I imagine if I get around to contacting the supplier they may be able to give me a replacement license.

I know it's been 9 days since the last post but I have to post here.

You have to base the cost of an effect, to the reaction to the effect.

When people just stare at me, wide eyed, I LOVE IT! It is priceless.
I don't mean that I would pay $100 for this effect, but it is great for opening a spec for different effects.

My problem lies in not knowing any good "finisher" effects.

slinkey1981 wrote:My problem lies in not knowing any good "finisher" effects.

I was lounging against a cupboard at a friend's house last week and her youngest (as he always does when I go there) peered at me with a 'Do a trick, then,' expression on his face. I took out a £2 coin and began tossing it onto the back of my hand. 'They're thinking about withdrawing these, you know?' I said. 'Something to do with the two different metals, one inside the other, making tossing it come out unequal between head and tails.' Then, seeming to remember something else. 'Actually, I've heard that there's also a chemical reaction between the metals so, if you rub them together... the whole coin completely melts away.' Fab. Gasps from him and his mother. The trouble is, I can't do Revolution instantly. Due to my 'look' (you'll know what I mean), I can't do it without 'setting myself up' a little, and it takes time and the right setting to do this without it looking fishy. That's the irking thing about Revolution: it's an imprompt effect that, for most people, I'd guess, is not quite impromptu enough. However, it does open up things nicely (and in repsonse to 'Do that again' requests) to moving on to impromptu penetrations - Dead Man's Handcuffs, Infusion, Garcia's Rubber Made, etc.

I just had a VERY awkward (sp) time with this trick.

So, who has children?

Now, who has a three year old?

Ok, last question. Who has had their three year old daughter burst into tears because daddy made her "mumnies" disappear?

Talk about me feeling like a P.O.S.

Her mother gave me a good tongue lashing over that one.

i watched the video of it once and figured it out wahoo!!!

boothystaffd wrote:i watched the video of it once and figured it out wahoo!!!

Congratulations! On behalf of all of us at talkmagic I would like to award you with our prestigious "I R SMAERT" award.

I have run into the "Where did it go?" problem with this & for coins and a few other objects it is easy to have a duplicate either in your shoe, under your shirt collar, etc. try it before you write off this simple solution.

scott priest wrote:I have run into the "Where did it go?" problem with this

For any small use it may be to anyone, this is the spiel I use when doing this vanish:
I always use £2, or 2 Euro, coins (because they conspicuously comprise two different metals). I begin, in a quite casual, oh-have-you-heard? fashion, by saying that, 'They're talking about withdrawing these coins, aren't they?' I begin absently tossing the coin - looking to see whether it's landing on heads or tails (you'll know why this action is useful if you know the method) - while I say that the reason they're considering withdrawing them is because the use of two metals in the coin has thrown them off balance; most people don't know it, but with these coins it's not 50-50 whether they land heads or tails - they're biased one way. Again, absently, I give up tossing the coin, adding that, 'Though, I can't remember which side has the advantage now.' Then, as an afterthought, 'Ah, but what's even more interesting - and a bigger reason why they're withdrawing them from circulation - is that the two metals actually react with each other.' I'm holding the coin up, rubbing it between my hands now. 'If you just massage them together a bit... and warm them with friction... the coin... completely dissolves.'

While (I was surprised to discover with some young nephews who went off to find change and becan rubbing it) kids actually buy this, it's its influence on adults that's my concern. (1) The time delay, focus on the massaging, etc., that's a perfectly natural part of the presentation foxes them badly: they absolutely feel that you've made a coin dissappear, in front of their faces, completely openly, hands outstretched, wearing a T-shirt. But also (2) the patter itself somehow inclines them to accept that the coin has vanished, rather than gone somewhere. They don't 'believe' it, of course, but it's like they accept it as one would when watching a play or a film or anything else that's not real but that has a narrative. They never asks - as almost always happen when I vanish a coin otherwise - 'Make it reappear.' Who'd ask that? It can't reappear - it's dissolved.

Firstly, I'm new to this site, so if it's annoying to 're-awaken' an old thread in this way, please tell me and I'll slap my wrist.

But I have four points to add...

1 Although I'd rather have paid a tenner for this DVD, I never regretted buying it. I have performed this more times than I can possibly count (alright, I'd guess anywhere between thirty and fifty times, something like that), and I've never once been caught out, even when I dropped the coin and had to pick it up and start all over again. It's a killer.

2 I almost always find that the spectator is completely amazed and baffled. Sure, they often say 'Where did it go?' but I don't see that being an issue. They usually grab my hands and search my hands. Then they just accept that something truly bizarre has happened.

3 I've never heard anyone mention this before (though I doubt that I'm the only one to do it), but this works amazingly well in conjunction with famous coin effect C*** U**q**. "Oh, both coins were supposed to go. Let me take care of that other coin..."

4 Some people have complained that this effect is not impromtu enough. I have invented a prop that makes the effect 100% impromptu. I wonder if I should market it?

Sorry again for waking the dead.

Far better to prod an old thread back into life than start a new one - thank you !