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by **TheOldForum** » Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:36 pm

hey i cant get the muscle pass down.ive been trying for abot a week and i cant figure out where exactly to put the half dollar i know its a little to the left of the classic palm.if you can help email me.also does anyone know how to do a trick i seen on the ellusionist street magic commerceial.i think its called the spin change its the one where he takes a card and shows the face the he spins around slowly then once he gets back to the face its another card.if anyone knows how to do it i would appreciate it if you sent me the instructions.my email address is mpendergraph@hotmail.com.i know its sleight of hand so i will practise it until i get it right bye.

by **TheOldForum** » Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:37 pm

i meant i know its to the right of the classic palm by the way

by **TheOldForum** » Sun Mar 09, 2003 3:25 am

The muscle pass takes along time to learn for some people. check out www.coinvanish.com I still can't get it very high. the spin change in my opinion isn't that great the angles have to be right and it is hard to because of the angles. it is sort of like the snap change. I don't think you should worry about learning it.

[Anonymously Posted by: 'practicemakesperfect']

by **TheOldForum** » Sun Mar 09, 2003 11:17 am

If you can get the angles right for the spin change it is very good, and once you know where to hold the cards it is fairly forgiving, the only problem is finding the right position in the first place and remembering it each time!

by **TheOldForum** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:19 pm

If you guys want to see some serious coin effects, including the Muscle Pass, go here http://www.coinvanish.com/

Regards... Tony

by **TheOldForum** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:20 pm

Sorry... disregard that last post, since I see it has already been recommended above.

... Tony

by **midge25** » Fri May 02, 2003 7:57 am

this is a very good pictorial complement site to some of the sleights in bobo book

by **the_mog** » Fri May 02, 2003 12:29 pm

just to point out.... it may take a little more than a week to perfect a muscle pass :roll:

by **midge25** » Fri May 02, 2003 1:03 pm

i think it will be best to master the classic palm first, to stop the hand muscles getting confused

by **the_mog** » Fri May 02, 2003 1:04 pm

i think my highest mascle pass was about 6 inches...hehe been trying for months :roll:

by **seige** » Tue May 13, 2003 9:55 pm

The muscle pass is NOT an easy thing to master...

Consider - do you REALLY need it???

Try concentrating your efforts on moves that will actually serve you harder...

by **S_adamson1** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:06 pm

PM me for a great web site that teaches the muscle pass. It looks really hard but hey if you wanna spend the time this web site has many videos of great coin routines. Most routines look almost impossible but if you are interested in learning some amazing coin sleights and vanishes this is for you.

by **Sam X** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:09 am

At Blackpool I watched the Shoot Ogawa lecture and his muscle pass was amzing. He mastered it in 2 years.

by **kardtrik** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:11 am

It took me forever to learn the muscle pass, and still consider myself to be learning it. It's one of those things that can always be improved.

As to wehther or not you actually need to learn it, that is obviously up to you. There anre plenty of neat routines that use it, and I learned it to be used as a utility device for a simple coin vanish that I will gladly share--pm me-- It's a magician fooler.

It's also an interesting flourish. Lord knows we've all spent time on flourishe with cards or coins that have no practical appications...so, the muscle pass has it's virtues there.

My two Scents.