Card splitting - HELP!!

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Card splitting - HELP!!

Postby ddathan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:43 pm

Hi everyone

I recently purchased 'The Art of Card Splitting' by Martini, and i have had some trouble with making the cards. The actual splitting of the card is fine, it's when I'm gluing two parts together that i have difficulties. I live in the U.K. so when it said use rubber cement, the nearest i could find was copydex. However, this seams to make the card shrivel up when i applied it , and it also leaves the cards with little air bubbles.

Also i find that the newly made gaff cards are much less hard and stable as the normal bicycle cards, they are more bendy and too flexible.

Can anybody help me? Do you have any little tips as to making better gaff cards?

Thanks, Dominic.
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Postby seige » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:45 pm

Copydex is your problem. It's water based.

Rubber cement is spirit based.

Cards + water = bad.

Whoever told you that Copydex was 'like' rubber cement is completely inaccurate.

Use rubber cement, as recommending in Martini's video, and you're cooking on gas.
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Postby Part-Timer » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:32 pm

The next question will be where can rubber cement be found!

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic18347-0.php

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic15836-0.php
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Postby Michael Jay » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:18 pm

Part-Timer wrote:The next question will be where can rubber cement be found!

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic18347-0.php

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic15836-0.php


Or click here. It's about half way down the page (just past the flash products).

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Re: Card splitting - HELP!!

Postby chryles » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:32 pm

ddathan wrote:
Also I find that the newly made gaff cards are much less hard and stable as the normal bicycle cards, they are more bendy and too flexible.


the cards are made up of three parts face, middle and back, if that makes sense. you need to make sure you've got all three parts in the gaffs you are making. so for example, if you are making a DB take the face off one, the back off another and put it on the the back that still has the middle attached to it. if you just use the two backs and have no middle card it will be thin and weak. hope this helps.
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Postby Farlsborough » Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:08 am

Or... sell your card splitting DVD (no, don't, I'm just trying to make a point...) and buy a pack of assorted gaff cards from NUMS. I tried my own card-splitting, and realised that some things just aren't worth the acid in your stomach :roll:
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Postby ddathan » Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:40 am

The next question will be where can rubber cement be found!


Correct!!

Thanks for the advice, i've bought some rubber cement and i'll see how that goes.

the cards are made up of three parts face, middle and back, if that makes sense. you need to make sure you've got all three parts in the gaffs you are making. so for example, if you are making a DB take the face off one, the back off another and put it on the the back that still has the middle attached to it. if you just use the two backs and have no middle card it will be thin and weak. hope this helps.


I still found the cards weaker even though i had put the thin card with the thick card. I'll see how it goes with rubber cement though.
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Postby Replicant » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:45 pm

Am I missing something or is life too short to be splitting cards to make your own gaffs? Surely you're better off just buying them? Unless you need a specific gaff card that can't be purchased, I don't see the point in making your own.
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Postby Michael Jay » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:00 pm

As far as buying them goes, if you need specific cards that are not readily available, I've heard nothing but good comments on Neil Lester's work. Any card that you want, he will make for you. You can contact him direct via his shop:

http://www.cardsbymartin.com/index.html

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Postby Lord Freddie » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:20 pm

And magicbox sell a box of mixed fakes with the Barcode Revelation effect thrown in! About six quid if I remember rightly and you get a load of different ones.
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Postby Ettienne Frost » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:02 pm

Hi there, since this is a fairly old post I wondered if any of you experienced guys have any knowledge of splitting black cards? I've just picked up Martini's Art of Card Splitting but there's no mention of black cards, I'm deducing from the haircuts in the video that there probably weren't any in production back then. :twisted:
Anyway my guess is that splitting a black card will probably leave a horrible white fading around the edging but I'm hoping one of you guys will tell me different. I would test it out myself but I've only got one deck of shadow masters at the moment and I don't really want to be one card short.
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Postby Lawrence » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:11 pm

I've got to ask; if you're not planning on splitting your black cards then what's the problem?

A solution though, can be your friendly neighbourhood sharpie.
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Postby Ettienne Frost » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:46 pm

Oh I'll split them without remorse, It just means I'll have to get a few more in. I much prefer them over regular bikes, it's just that nearly all packet tricks and gaffs only come in bikes and the only way I see around this problem is to make my own. I'm liking the black sharpie idea though, might be a winner...
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