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I don't know if im allowed to ask for help, considering im new here, but would anyone email me on how to use the raven. I didn't get instructions with mine, and im not sure on how to use it.

Leeuha@seductive.com

you should have gotten instructions and even if you didn't it's pretty straight forward. you won't be getting tips here as that is exposure.

my suggestion is to throw the @#$% thing in the trash, grab a deck of cards, or a few coins and learn to be entertaining with them.

skip all the teen-age magic c*** (not the best).

and don't forget the golden rule:

"Before you can be entertaining with tricks you need to learn to be entertaining without them."

people don't like tricks. Just magicians do. that's why we learn them.
people just like to be entertained.

Actually, that isn't true. Many years ago, I bought a Switcheroo from Davenports. There were no instructions. I figured out how it worked (it is sort of obvious), but I wasn't quite sure how the timing went, and other fine details.

Some time later, I joined here, and discovered that I should have got instructions. Mandrake checked to make sure I owned the item (I described it in a lot of detail in a PM), and he helped me out.

Even stuff you buy from a shop can have the instructions left out. I don't own the Raven, so I can't sort out the problem myself, but perhaps another forum member who does could help. Maybe this is a fishing exercise, but at least give someone the benefit of the doubt.

So very true part timer, I once bought a set of Boston and Okito boxes which were meant to come with instructions and an example routine but didn't. Wasn't a big problem for me as I already knew what I was doing with them but could have been for someone else.

Leesmagic, personally though I think your best bet is to get in touch with who ever sold you the Raven and ask them for the instructions.

fstarsinic wrote:you should have gotten instructions and even if you didn't it's pretty straight forward. you won't be getting tips here as that is exposure.

my suggestion is to throw the @#$% thing in the trash, grab a deck of cards, or a few coins and learn to be entertaining with them.

skip all the teen-age magic c*** (not the best).

and don't forget the golden rule:

"Before you can be entertaining with tricks you need to learn to be entertaining without them."

people don't like tricks. Just magicians do. that's why we learn them.
people just like to be entertained.

Frank, my advice has always been, use it to hold messages on your fridge door.

however, You can get a dvd on how to use it. avoid this, because its not very good. with a capital C.

I cant recal laughing out loud, at any other magical instruction video.
concidering the guy invented it, he seems to have little or no, idea as to how to use it.
to answer your question, Its a pull. treat it in the same way as you would any other pull.
Im sure that you will be able to figure it out.

Frank, my advice has always been, use it to hold messages on your fridge door.

Its a pull. treat it in the same way as you would any other pull.

Im sure that you will be able to figure it out.
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Erm, im sorry but I haven't been on this forum very long...and Im still a little unfamilar with the extent of what constitutes as 'exposure' in everyone else's mind......but haven't you just kind of revealed what the Raven might be there?

If I weren't a magician...I could have maybe, probably have just figured out what it was from a description of something that commonly is found holding messages to fridge doors.

Although, I guess you could be talking about anything that's potentially adhesive I suppose. Never mind. Ignore me. I must be just bored at work and looking for something to reply to on here. My apologies

Tyler, that post is closer to exposure than the one you were moaning about. Breaking down a post and explaining each bit that could be exposure certainly doesn't help.

Tyler.
stop worrying.
If this thing is used properly, you wont know its being used.

if you use it incorrectly, your exposing it in a way thats far more damagable than by printing the word pull.

calling a pull , a pull, is the same as calling a silk, a silk, or a playing card, a playing card. Its a generic term, not a method.


Maybe we should say S****ght of h**d?

If i had to name one thing thats wrong with all magic sites, its the petty abriviations we use to cover up things that dont have to be covered up.

It really gets on mt t*ts!