Black decks hit the big time!

Can't find a suitable category? Post it here!!

Moderators: Mandrake, Lady of Mystery, bananafish, support, nickj, Rob

Special offers from our sponsors.
Best prices around! Become a reader of minds! Dude That's Cool Magic World-Of-Magic, Suppliers of quality Magic Worldwide ink cartridges Manufacturer of modern & unique magic apparatus!

Black decks hit the big time!

Postby Mark Waddington » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:40 pm

In case you didnt know, ellusionist is working on a full range of black deck gear, including gaff cards (double backs etc) tally ho viper decks, and a tiger mini deck.

Take a look here
http://www.ellusionist.com/store/index. ... -tiger.htm
Mark Waddington M.M.C.
World class extra for 'Calender Girls' the movie
--------------------------------

www.yorkshireweddingmagician.co.uk
www.yorkshireweddingmagician.com
www.Mark-Waddington.co.uk
User avatar
Mark Waddington
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2680
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:51 pm
Location: Skipton N.Yorks (Key of the door - 21!)(CP)

Postby GoldFish » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:12 pm

It all looks quite good fun really; especially the gaffed deck, I'm looking forward to that!!
All the best,

Will Wood
User avatar
GoldFish
Advanced Member
 
Posts: 1006
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:10 pm
Location: Malawi 25:AH

Postby magicdiscoman » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:38 pm

now all they need to do is make a stripper and marked version and i'll be totaly converted :lol: :lol:
DEFINATLY-POSITIVELY-MOSTLY-RETIRED DUE TO NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER
"now downgraded to essential tremmor."

if i can help i will but you may not get a straight answer;-} curently supporting "help for heros"
star sign metalic dog / torus the bull.
User avatar
magicdiscoman
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 5465
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2003 8:00 pm
Location: portsmouth uk (41) semi retired + consulting aka jason packer.

Postby Part-Timer » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:15 am

magicdiscoman wrote:now all they need to do is make a stripper and marked version and i'll be totaly converted :lol: :lol:


You can get materials to apply the Ted Lesley or Boris Wild systems yourself.
Part-Timer
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2749
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 12:51 pm
Location: London (41:SH)

Postby Paulajayne » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:39 pm

Hi

They look different, but pull one of these out and the public must think "Rigged Deck"


Paula
Paulajayne
Full Member
 
Posts: 98
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:25 am
Location: LONDON - Bromley WP

Postby Part-Timer » Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:37 am

I should point out that my comment about marking materials related to the black Bicycle deck, not the Black Tiger ones.

I think Paula's right (to a degree) about the latter. I think it should be reserved for special effects or manipulation, not just an "ordinary deck", as they look unusual.

However, I should point out that if you want to mark a Black Tiger Deck, it's really not that hard and you probably already own a suitable tool for the job.
Part-Timer
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2749
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 12:51 pm
Location: London (41:SH)

Postby Michael Jay » Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:52 am

With the black decks and spectators thinking "gaffe," I've noted about a 50/50 split between magicians with this problem. Half of those that I've noted talking don't have any problem using them as a regular deck and the other half are terribly dissapointed by the fact that they are immediatley suspected of using a gaffed deck by their spectators.

I'm thinking it must be a presentational problem and not the deck itself...Then again, maybe I'm just crazy.

Fact is, the decks haven't caught on here in the states yet and I'm apprehensive to pay 7 dollars to get one myself.

Mike.
User avatar
Michael Jay
Advanced Member
 
Posts: 1128
Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:02 pm

Postby MagicIain » Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:15 pm

The fact that the public may consider the black deck as 'rigged' in some way is a challenge for any magician - but as Michael says, surely just a presentational issue... Is the issue of (mis)trust not a common occurence in the spectator-magician relationship, even without these cards? Think of all the stories that go with using a chinese coin, or even sponge balls etc. Don't see it as a negative, consider it a useful opportunity to gain your audiences trust, or at the very least a chance to be creative.

Michael you said that the black decks haven't taken off in your part of the world - how about becoming the trend-setter...? These cards could set you aside from other magicians and make you stand out. Anything that differentiates one magician from another is surely a good thing for everybody...

Just thought I'd put a positive spin on things... :)
- Iain -
My blog: Backstage

All art is quite useless.
- Oscar Wilde
User avatar
MagicIain
Advanced Member
 
Posts: 1437
Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:53 pm
Location: Colchester, Essex (30:WP)

Postby Michael Jay » Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:44 am

I have to admit, Zack, I am intrigued by the idea...I've never considered myself a trendsetter, though! :wink:

Maybe, just maybe...

Mike.
User avatar
Michael Jay
Advanced Member
 
Posts: 1128
Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:02 pm


Return to Miscellaneous

Special offers from our sponsors.
MentalShocks Mentalism Instant Downloads The Source OF Your Ability Best prices around! For all your professional Magic Tricks Needs Sorcery Shop - Home of the ITR Magic Trick Videos The Merchant of Magic Offering over 10000 magic tricks with free next day delivery Black Artefacts - Europe\'s number 1 for weird, bizarre and psychic magic Bicycle cards in a bottle! A web site set up to sell my book, THE STRIPPER DECK, and future magical/mentalism titles. MagicWorld Magic Shop for Magic Tricks Visit Magicbox for all the latest and best effects! The scripting & Performance Books of Stephen Ward

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 1 guest