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Has anyone come across Acceptance for Value? Basically, if you get a bill at the bottom there is a slip, which the company will refer to as a payment slip. However, if it has the words 'bank giro credit' on it, it is in fact a remittance, a financial instrument which, when properly indorsed, can be used to pay for things.

Let's say you have a credit card bill. Ignoring, for a moment, the fact that credit agreements are fraudulent because the credit companies don't bring anything to the table (the credit is created by your signature - you are the one actually providing the credit), what happens when you pay. Let's say, you pay by cheque, or cash, over the counter. The remittances are collected into bundles of £30,000 and sent to Euroclear, which is a company that deals in securities, who monetarise them. Your cash payment is recorded as a gift (Ha!).

The upshot of this is that the bandits, in this case credit bandits, get paid twice. Once because of your 'gift', and once when they redeem the remittance.

The system is a scam. So, I recently accepted my credit card for value, along with a Notice of Acceptance for Value. Santander replied saying they could not accept the financial instrument, which is in breach of the English Bills of Exchange Act 1882 (which is in full force and effect in the UK).

So, I've sent them a Notice of Dishonour and Opportunity to Cure, which they have until tomorrow to respond to.

I'll let you know how it turns out.

Here is the sanitised Notice of Acceptance for Value.



Thieving Git (CEO)
Thieving Git's Office
2 Thieving Git Square
Regents Place
London


9 February 2010

Notice of Acceptance for Value

Dear Thieving Git,

Re Thieving Git Credit Card – Account Number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Please find enclosed the financial instrument your company sent me in relation to the above account, accepted for value and returned for settlement, and prepayment against future transactions.

Please also be advised that this instrument, once accepted for value, is lawful specie of money which can be used to credit/off-set the balance of the above account with the authorised use of my exemption ID number. This properly endorsed remittance can be redeemed by depositing it with Her Majesty's Treasury, as I am sure Thieving Git Cards' Chief Financial Officer is already well aware.

Therefore, please forward this letter and remittance to the appropriate account facility within Thieving Git Cards and instruct them to act accordingly, providing me with evidence that the account balance has been adjusted.

If no written response from Thieving Git Cards is received by mail within ten days of your receipt of this notice, it will be assumed that the account has been credited as per these instructions and that this fact will be reflected in the next monthly statement of account.

Without malice or mischief, in sincerity and honour,

By Gary of the family dickson (Agent and Administrator)


ALL RIGHTS RESERVED – WITHOUT PREJUDICE – NON ASSUMPSIT.

And here is the sanitised Notice of Dishonour and Opportunity to Cure


Thieving Git
Thieving Git's Office
2 Thieving Git Square
Regents Place
London


February 19 2010

NOTICE OF DISHONOUR AND OPPORTUNITY TO CURE

Dear Thieving Git,

Re: Thieving Git Credit Card XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

With reference to the financial instrument, accepted for value and returned for settlement and prepayment against future transactions, that was enclosed with the Notice of Acceptance for Value dated 9 February 2010, delivered to Thieving Git Cards by recorded mail.

I received a letter dated 12 February 2010 from Female Person, from your complaints department although I had not made a complaint. In this letter Ms Person claimed that Thieving Git Cards are unable to accept the financial instrument as payment, yet the instrument in question was not returned to me.

I hereby give notice that Thieving Git Cards has dishonoured the financial instrument, accepted for value and returned for settlement and prepayment against future transactions.

Therefore, please send me written confirmation that payment has been received and accepted, as well as an appropriately adjusted statement for the above account, within three working days of your receipt of this notice.

Without malice or mischief, in sincerity and honour,

By: GARY of the family dickson (Agent and Administrator)


ALL RIGHTS RESERVED – WITHOUT PREJUDICE – NON ASSUMPSIT

Well, the credit card company dishonoured my Notice Of Dishonour and Opportunity to Cure. So I've served them with a Notice of Dishonour, the sanitised version of which I'll stick below.


Thieving Git (CEO)
Thieving Git's Office
2 Thieving Git Square
Regents Place
London


23 February 2010

NOTICE OF DISHONOUR

NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL
NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT

Dear Thieving Git,

Re: Thieving Git Credit Card – XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

With reference to the financial instrument, accepted for value and returned for settlement and prepayment against future transactions, that was enclosed with the Notice of Acceptance for Value, dated 9 February 2010 and Notice of Dishonour and Opportunity to Cure, dated 19 February 2010, both of which were delivered to Thieving Git Cards by recorded mail.

I hereby give notice that Thieving Git Cards has dishonoured both of the said Notices by failing to respond appropriately within a reasonable time frame. Therefore, Thieving Git Cards has agreed to all the terms set forth therein; namely:

1.In accordance with the original instructions given in the Notice of Acceptance for Value, Thieving Git Cards have accepted the properly indorsed remittance slip as a means of settlement and prepayment; and
2.The above account will be credited accordingly.

Since Thieving Git Cards have accepted the above, Thieving Git Cards therefore also accepts the following:

1. Thieving Git Cards has no claim to any interest payment, or additional charges, neither of which can be legally added to the account balance: and
2.Thieving Git Cards has no authority to adversely affect the credit rating of the card holder.

Therefore, I request Thieving Git Cards send me written confirmation that payment has been received and accepted, as well as an appropriately adjusted statement for the above account, within three working days of your receipt of this notice, sent by recorded mail.

Please be advised that Section 43, Subsection 1 (a) of the English Bills of Exchange Act 1882, which is still in full force and effect in the United Kingdom, clearly states that a bill of exchange is discharged when it:

“...is duly presented for acceptance, and such an acceptance as is prescribed by this Act is refused or cannot be obtained”.

Therefore, in accordance with the law, in the event that you fail to provide me with what has been so reasonably requested once again, Thieving Git Cards dishonour of a legal tender of payment discharges the outstanding balance on the above account.

Without malice or mischief, in sincerity and honour,

By: Gary of the family dickson (Agent & Administrator)

ALL RIGHTS RESERVED – WITHOUT PREJUDICE - NON-ASSUMPSIT

Gary, I find this quite interesting... could you explain it to me in simple terms, i.e. using apples and bananas?! I whole-heartedly approve of sticking it to the man or at least not bending over for him, unfortunately this is all way above my head...!

OK. When a company issues you a bill, at the bottom is a bank giro credit, issued in your name. Take a moment to think about that, it's not a bank giro debit, but a credit.

That slip of paper is called a remittance. According to Bouvier Law Dictionary a remittance is:

"REMITTANCE, comm. law. Money sent by one merchant to another, either in specie, bill of exchange, draft or otherwise."

So, they issue currency in your name, without your permission. Now then, all currency is fiat currency, because it's not backed by the gold standard. That means it has no real value. It's a made up number. In fact, inflation is the creation of currency out of nothing.

So, the remittance is a form of currency, pursuant to the Bills of Exchange Act 1882, which is still in full force and effect in the UK.

So what I did, was to send them the remittance, along with the Notice of Acceptance for Value.

Anybody can send a notice, and it is important to note that a Notice is not a letter. It is a legal document.

So, the Notice of Acceptance for Value was sent. I received a reply saying they could not accept the remittance as payment. This means they have dishonoured the payment. In commercial law maintaining honour is more important than being right. Of course, in this case I am in the right because the original credit agreement was fraudulent, in that the credit company did not lend me any money. The credit is created by my signature.

During this process, I am maintaining my monthly payments to ensure I maintain honour by not defaulting. However, when I serve my notice of cancellation of payment, then I will cease payments while retaining honour.

The Notice of Cancellation of Payment will include a fee schedule of £150 per Notice I have to write, phone call I have to deal with, and hour of time (or portion thereof) spent dealing with the credit bandit.

Gary Dickson wrote:OK. When a company issues you a bill, at the bottom is a bank giro credit, issued in your name. Take a moment to think about that, it's not a bank giro debit, but a credit.

That slip of paper is called a remittance. According to Bouvier Law Dictionary a remittance is:

"REMITTANCE, comm. law. Money sent by one merchant to another, either in specie, bill of exchange, draft or otherwise."

So, they issue currency in your name, without your permission. Now then, all currency is fiat currency, because it's not backed by the gold standard. That means it has no real value. It's a made up number. In fact, inflation is the creation of currency out of nothing.

So, the remittance is a form of currency, pursuant to the Bills of Exchange Act 1882, which is still in full force and effect in the UK.

So what I did, was to send them the remittance, along with the Notice of Acceptance for Value.

Anybody can send a notice, and it is important to note that a Notice is not a letter. It is a legal document.

So, the Notice of Acceptance for Value was sent. I received a reply saying they could not accept the remittance as payment. This means they have dishonoured the payment. In commercial law maintaining honour is more important than being right. Of course, in this case I am in the right because the original credit agreement was fraudulent, in that the credit company did not lend me any money. The credit is created by my signature.

During this process, I am maintaining my monthly payments to ensure I maintain honour by not defaulting. However, when I serve my notice of cancellation of payment, then I will cease payments while retaining honour.

The Notice of Cancellation of Payment will include a fee schedule of £150 per Notice I have to write, phone call I have to deal with, and hour of time (or portion thereof) spent dealing with the credit bandit.

So by using your credit card once you are about to make a killing? Or am I way off mark?

Beardy wrote:So by using your credit card once you are about to make a killing? Or am I way off mark?

Well, I'm not making a killing, just using a lawful method of discharging a fraudulent debt. It just happens to be a method that the Credit Bandits don't like.

But if you get away with this you're going to become a celebrity for many folk seeking to learn how you buggered the bankers...

Wow Gary can you make my credit card bill go away too?

Craig do you know what that word means, LOL!!!!????

To be honest, I'm not the hero. I'm just learning from the true pioneers. I didn't post the links because I wasn't sure how many people would be interested but.......

My entry point to serious study of this area was kick started by these videos.

Derby Freeman Conference

There's supposed to be six, but part four is missing.

The guy in the middle has his own website. In it he provides a whole bunch of useful information on law, statutes, acts, conventions, bills, treaties. He also provides sanitised versions of his own processes. If you check out his "The A4V of Robin Hoody: A Bankster in Dishonour" you'll see that he is the true trailblazing hero.

@ Morrigan: No, I can't make your credit card bill go away. Only you can. However, you should not do so on the back of my advice, because I'm not giving any. I'm just posting my experiences in the hope that you will do your own research, your own due diligence.

I should point out that this is not a process I can say works from personal experience as I have not yet perfected it. However, I have met people who have successfully used this sort of commercial remedy, and the law is quite clearly in my favour. Despite that, I know that energy bandits refuse point blank to accept remittances as a form of payment.

Bearing this in mind, I am not suggesting that any of you should attempt this yourself. If you do, you should only do so after having engaged in extensive research.

Also, you should be wary of disinformation. There are only a few people whose opinion I trust. One is that of the Geordie (Michael) and the Asian (Amit) gentlemen in the above video.

Another person worth looking up is the Anti Terrorist. He has a youtube channel and has invaluable information on dealing with the police and the courts.

One last thing - in internet parlance I am a noob at this. You should take everything I say with a pinch of salt and do your own research. Michael's website is a good place. Also helpful are a couple of forums:

http://synworks.net/thinkfree/
http://www.fmotl.com/forum/index.php

MODS: I hope you don't mind me posting links to forums, but they're not magic ones. I understand completely if you feel the need to remove them.