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After seeing a performance of the Mother of all booktest, it seemed a hell of alot more accurate than NM, and I also heard its only A list of force words (no revelation, it said on the details) and the MOABT seems to give a method for how to get the word when NM doesnt (I eventually discovered a way and still remained naked)

NM gives alot more data- word wise, enough to be confident and MOABT only gives A list.

would the MOABT be a better booktest?
I dont care about price just the actual booktest.

UndergroundSvengali wrote:After seeing a performance of the Mother of all booktest, it seemed a hell of alot more accurate than NM, and I also heard its only A list of force words (no revelation, it said on the details) and the MOABT seems to give a method for how to get the word when NM doesnt (I eventually discovered a way and still remained naked)

NM gives alot more data- word wise, enough to be confident and MOABT only gives A list.

would the MOABT be a better booktest?
I dont care about price just the actual booktest.

Depends on a lot actually. NBT allows you to use any book, any time, any where...but in my view is still quite difficult to master...MOABT has more direct hits early on, but is not 'impromptu' in that sense...Try looking at Marc Paul's AAA booktest for a comparison...for the participant, AAA is indistinguishable from NBT and you can do it as impromptu as you like. If you do 'books galore' presentation then you can have MOABT along with many others...

Which is better, a mountain bike or a car?

Which is better, an apple or an orange?

Or, possibly, which is better for putting in nails, a chisel or a screwdriver?

What is "better" depends upon you and the nature of your performances. There may be a better answer than either of the two you are considering, as Todd says.

Do you want to be able to reveal a word using any book (or even a magazine or newspaper)? Over the phone? Do you want great accuracy? Do you want to use "interesting" words (perhaps ones that can be drawn)? If you knew the answers to these questions, you'd know which product to buy.

MOABT is very good (so good, it's been ripped off - although it is itself a development of other ideas). It's expensive and may not suit the performance situations you find yourself in. I've looked at your profile and your introduction and think that (at this stage) you would be better off learning other methods that do not require a gimmicked book. Todd's mentioned one and you can add the Hoy Book Test as well.

Im sorry, I thought the fact that I'm comparing NM would suggest my type of approach.

UndergroundSvengali wrote:After seeing a performance of the Mother of all booktest, it seemed a hell of alot more accurate than NM, and I also heard its only A list of force words (no revelation, it said on the details) and the MOABT seems to give a method for how to get the word when NM doesnt (I eventually discovered a way and still remained naked)

NM gives alot more data- word wise, enough to be confident and MOABT only gives A list.

would the MOABT be a better booktest?
I dont care about price just the actual booktest.

the NBT can be deadly accurate as long as you get the spectator on message by explaining the test and how, if she does as you ask, she can beat you.

I know that it's theme may be too macabre for some, but Dr Todd's book test, Luna is a fabulous once for being direct with little pumping and no apparent forcing.

Have you checked the methods in Corinda or Annemann?

Tomo wrote:

UndergroundSvengali wrote:After seeing a performance of the Mother of all booktest, it seemed a hell of alot more accurate than NM, and I also heard its only A list of force words (no revelation, it said on the details) and the MOABT seems to give a method for how to get the word when NM doesnt (I eventually discovered a way and still remained naked)

NM gives alot more data- word wise, enough to be confident and MOABT only gives A list.

would the MOABT be a better booktest?
I dont care about price just the actual booktest.

the NBT can be deadly accurate as long as you get the spectator on message by explaining the test and how, if she does as you ask, she can beat you.

I still believe your booktest is THE booktest, I really enjoyed the fact that NM was basically only data and that somehow that made my mind work much more clearer to finding ways. ( Mainly a naked method that allows me to know how many letters they are- which is a big importance)

im sure if the method I found was in NM, the people (and most likely mental magicians) who "didn't just get it" or put any artistic thought into it wouldnt have said a thing. or maybe thats just me who prefers to be proud at critical thinking as opposed to just knowing and reading everything already.

Tomo, your book was a piece of abstract art to me, meaning it engages much more thought in order to make it your own, instead of everybody knowing so sure its a house that nobody deserves it should be looked at since their too sure about the painting being a house.. Hope that makes sense.

P.s I still am looking forward to reading your 2 other books

I still like the NBT however in person I now prefer the technique Colin McLeod explains in Opening Minds along with the Hoy.

NBT over the phone is mind blowing though as there is no possible way you could get a peek.