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Postby Taylor » Jul 5th, '05, 15:51



Flourishes are fantastic and canmake a trick.

I use them all the time. The reaction from just doing a good flourish is as good as a reaction from doing a trick.

Time after time I have sat at my desk just fanning the deck then closing it with one hand then started doing and L cut and peaople come across say "do that again"

People want to see fancy flourishes.

Take a look at Oz pearlmans Born to perform: http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=618 This has got some nice flourishes and make an entertaining watch.

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Postby Java » Jul 5th, '05, 15:55

I've wondered about this. It does look good when you see someone perform a whole bunch of flourishes but it does broadcast the fact that the performer is very skilled at manipulation. One of the reasons I really like Juan Tamarez is because he looks like a bit of a fool and like he doesn't really know what he's doing. It therefore comes as more of a surpise (and more magical) when he pulls off a minor miracle.

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Postby seige » Jul 5th, '05, 16:25

Yes, flourishes look great.

But you have to be slightly careful that they don't outshine the actual effects you are performing.

Spending 2 years perfecting a double waterfall dovetail vanish backpalm production to distract someone from your awful classic pass is time spent in the wrong area ;)

If you are a serious cardician, you should also consider that using flourishes *can* lead to your audience finding your performance pretentious and flashy—and that makes you seem like a show off. Fine if you're a big name in lights.

The only real flourishes I will recommend learning for magical purposes are false cuts. I find them invaluable.

But, I agree, we as magicians ALL have learned some fancy flourishes and they are GREAT fun to play with.

But I've always found, at a party or gathering, for example, that picking up a deck of cards and going full-on into some flourishes isn't half as impressive as getting the audience engaged in a magic effect.

Flourishes, after all, aren't so much a 'How the heck did he do that?', more of a 'wow, I bet that took a long time to learn'.

But, each to their own, I guess. It's all about finding your own style.

I provide this as my own tuppence worth—food for thought rather than advice. :)

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Postby bob70011 » Jul 5th, '05, 16:30

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Postby Taylor » Jul 5th, '05, 16:55

I do have to add......... I only use flourishes in the right place like getting the spectatour to pick a card. The Le paul spread is nice for this. A great one (which I am trying to master at the moment) is De'vo's Flipback vanish http://superhandz.com/videos.html

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Postby Hawk » Jul 5th, '05, 17:35

They look great, so its certainly makes it easier?

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Postby Tenko » Jul 6th, '05, 00:31

Fancy flourishes only impress magicians. Joe public are more impressed with a magic trick well executed with entertaining patter.

It would be a much better use of time for any budding magician to develop skills at entertaining rather than learning fancy moves, believe me.

Entertain first, its a must.

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Postby rcarlsen » Jul 6th, '05, 06:26

I kind of agree with Tenko.

I like flourishes, but I don't do them too often. I have my 3-4 fancy cuts i do on a regular basis, but that's just to show the spec that, yes i know how to handle cards, so the magic I do, is not pure luck :) It's nice to have a couple of flourishes, for a show off, but they should be implemented as part of a routine, and not just a pure show off flourish.

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