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Im doing a magic show for my niece and nephew's Birthday and at the finale I produce a giant 2m by 2m silk. Now am only a hobbyist so am on a spend as little budget so I was wondering is there any large productions using body loading, umbrellas for example that I could cheaply achieve using traditional methods that don't use fancy gimmicks and gizmos. im wanting to produce it from under the big silk to top the finale. Also do note I need to be able to keep the concealment during the duration of the show.

would I be better buy a few professional production umbrellas, I've seen a set of 4 for about £40 unless you can suggest any cheaper available in the UK.

if your a hobbyist, do yourself a favor and Invest in Tarbell. its all there

daleshrimpton wrote:if your a hobbyist, do yourself a favor and Invest in Tarbell. its all there

am sorry but I feel like your patronizing me. you make me feel that because am a hobbyist that I don't know anything. the word hobbyist does not have any reflection on my skill and knowledge but that doesn't mean I know every aspect of magic but neither do you or anyone else. I asked for advice not to be belittled.

I think Dale's advice was meant sincerely and to be helpful - the smiley face indicates that intention.
However, back to the plot, 'normal' umbrellas may very well be usable but, if I remember right, production ones are easier to trigger and open compared to the standard brolly which may take a bit more effort and fumbling at a time when you just want the production to be swift, easy and impressive. Places like Tne Works often sell small brollies quite cheaply which you could experiment with before committing to buying purpose made props.

What's the environment you're performing in? What other props do you have with you?

Keeping an umbrella on your person for a whole show sounds like it may be restrictive, it may be best to look at loading the umbrella prior to producing it, if possible.

Anjorno wrote:

daleshrimpton wrote:if your a hobbyist, do yourself a favor and Invest in Tarbell. its all there

am sorry but I feel like your patronizing me. you make me feel that because am a hobbyist that I don't know anything. the word hobbyist does not have any reflection on my skill and knowledge but that doesn't mean I know every aspect of magic but neither do you or anyone else. I asked for advice not to be belittled.

If you're a pro, you don't want to be buying cheap props, better investment to get a decent set of what you need and they'll make the money back. If you're a hobbyist, you probably don't want to be buying expensive props as you won't make any of the money back, so Tarbell presents a more cost-effective option.

Pretty sure there was no belittling. As far as I know, Dale's not a pro either

I been looking and considered that a nice zombie ball effect with the big silk maybe a better option.

If you buy cheap, you are going to get cheap. And a cheap set of production umbrellas probably won't last. Zombie is a great effect but I hate it because magicians don't seem to know when to end the effect. Also a good zombie routine takes practice. It is easy to do, really hard to make it look good.

You may want to look at some dove productions, like Doves from silks, not overly expensive and keep in mind just because it says dove production, doesn't mean you have to produce a dove. Ask the dealer you are buying it from if objects other than a dove can work.

And the investment in Tarbell is excellent advice, but it is a tomb that you have to dig through. But as Dale said...it is all there.

bmat wrote:If you buy cheap, you are going to get cheap. And a cheap set of production umbrellas probably won't last. Zombie is a great effect but I hate it because magicians don't seem to know when to end the effect. Also a good zombie routine takes practice. It is easy to do, really hard to make it look good.

You may want to look at some dove productions, like Doves from silks, not overly expensive and keep in mind just because it says dove production, doesn't mean you have to produce a dove. Ask the dealer you are buying it from if objects other than a dove can work.

And the investment in Tarbell is excellent advice, but it is a tomb that you have to dig through. But as Dale said...it is all there.

how would you end it? personally I would start it under the silk floating let it come up top float back and fourth and maybe along the arm then finish under briefly before coming to a close.

Lawrence wrote:What's the environment you're performing in? What other props do you have with you?

Keeping an umbrella on your person for a whole show sounds like it may be restrictive, it may be best to look at loading the umbrella prior to producing it, if possible.

its a WMC, SML Stage and I have a die production box, change bag and silk production box for the pre-finale and was thinking with my LRGE silk zombie ball or a nice big production like the pre-mentioned umbrellas.