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I recently worked out a way of making it look like you have solved a rubiks cube in seconds. any random mixed cube grabbed off a side table during maybe a mentalism show. you show all sides are mixed and there is no funny gimmicks used which there isn't. you proceed to solve it in less than 20 seconds!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Les1a5KAIb4&feature=youtu.be

Looks good but I am sorry to say it doesn't look like magic. The average speed for rubiks cube speed people is about 8 seconds. The fastest is just over 7 seconds I believe. So picking up the cube and moving things around for a moment or two and it is solved really isn't magical for most people. Amazing yes, magic no.

Nowstart with it all messed up and toss it in the air and it solves itself, now that is magic and it has already been done.

bmat wrote:Looks good but I am sorry to say it doesn't look like magic. The average speed for rubiks cube speed people is about 8 seconds. The fastest is just over 7 seconds I believe. So picking up the cube and moving things around for a moment or two and it is solved really isn't magical for most people. Amazing yes, magic no.

Nowstart with it all messed up and toss it in the air and it solves itself, now that is magic and it has already been done.

im talking more mentalism style magic like feats similar to what derren brown did in infamous

I hate to sound negative but I simply don't see how this relates to mentalism, (which is just magic presented differently). But I did watch it again because I am interested and I love the fact that you really try to be original and forward the craft. So can you tell me how it relates to mentalism. All I saw was you solving the rubic's cube.

bmat wrote:I hate to sound negative but I simply don't see how this relates to mentalism, (which is just magic presented differently). But I did watch it again because I am interested and I love the fact that you really try to be original and forward the craft. So can you tell me how it relates to mentalism. All I saw was you solving the rubic's cube.

have you watched Derren brown infamous. I would class him as a mentalist and he does a similar feat which by your definition is not magic. also the trick where you bend a coin is not technically magic as a coin can be bent with bare hands.

DEFINITIONS OF: magic trick. 1 n an illusory feat; considered magical by naïve observers. Synonyms: conjuration, conjuring trick, deception, illusion, legerdemain, magic, thaumaturgy, trick Types: card trick. a trick performed with playing cards.

solving a rubiks cube so fast or giving that illusion can be developed into a mentalist style act which you prove superior mental capacity for example mathematical feats like human calculator, book test claiming to have memorised the contents, Derren's button counting act.

I liked it. I'd put it in the same category as speed maths or memory effects but they're all mental feats (does that make them mentalism, I'll leave that for your to decide but Corinda certainly thought so) but they can work well as part of a mentalist's routine.

I agree with Lady of Mystery. I really liked it and I do think that an audience would appreciate it as a feat of memory / math. Definitely a place in an act for it or even something to baffle the hell out of friends and family. Derren's presentation in Infamous was also great, matching all sides of his cube to the other.

Nice one

Lady of Mystery wrote:I liked it. I'd put it in the same category as speed maths or memory effects but they're all mental feats (does that make them mentalism, I'll leave that for your to decide but Corinda certainly thought so) but they can work well as part of a mentalist's routine.

thanks for the support and while not technically mentalism these effects have featured in the acts of many mentalists. With that mentalism seems the most apt category. Also out of curiosity DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THIS ILLUSION IS DONE? Please note the cube is normal and this is done with no gimmicks or fancy props.

Hi

Well if this can be done with any mixed cube then I can only conclude speed cubing, bu it doesn't look like that either.

Cheers
Rob

RobPotts wrote:Hi

Well if this can be done with any mixed cube then I can only conclude speed cubing, bu it doesn't look like that either.

Cheers
Rob

Your right its not speed cubing. besides that would not be an illusion you would be solving it fast for real. The method I use is quite unknown and shockingly easy but if you don't know you wouldn't guess right as it so seems. Don't take this as bragging I was just curious to how common the knowledge of the method maybe compared to the source I learned it from claimed. Also come to think of it, using the said method I could achieve the illusion of what Derren seems to do for real in Infamous.

All of this reminds me - I bought one of those ' throw it in the air and instantly solve it' Rubiks cubes at Blackpool a couple of years ago, must go find it and give it a try.......

I've got an idea and I'm going to guess that the cube is pre-prepared? If you're doing what I think you're doing, it's a nice idea although I assume you couldn't have it mixed by a spectator before hand?

Anjorno wrote:

bmat wrote:I hate to sound negative but I simply don't see how this relates to mentalism, (which is just magic presented differently). But I did watch it again because I am interested and I love the fact that you really try to be original and forward the craft. So can you tell me how it relates to mentalism. All I saw was you solving the rubic's cube.

have you watched Derren brown infamous. I would class him as a mentalist and he does a similar feat which by your definition is not magic. also the trick where you bend a coin is not technically magic as a coin can be bent with bare hands.

DEFINITIONS OF: magic trick. 1 n an illusory feat; considered magical by naïve observers. Synonyms: conjuration, conjuring trick, deception, illusion, legerdemain, magic, thaumaturgy, trick Types: card trick. a trick performed with playing cards.

solving a rubiks cube so fast or giving that illusion can be developed into a mentalist style act which you prove superior mental capacity for example mathematical feats like human calculator, book test claiming to have memorised the contents, Derren's button counting act.

Well I'm backing out of this because obviously I am missing something. All I know is I and most of my friends who also grew up during the Rubic cube phenonmenon can solve a rubic's cube in seconds from any position.

As per bending a coin. I don't know what kind of coins you have but I've yet to meet anyone who can bend American coins with their hands. Plus I can bend the coin with my mind, holding the coin at my fingertips and watch it visibly bend.

I will go out on my regular limb then and say it is all about presentation.

I'm also confused about the maths thing. I've never seen that as mentalism or magic. I see that as a gift, some people are just very good at math like those 6yr olds who do amazing computations in their heads. Or the spelling bee champions. Amazing? of course. Does it fall into the realm of magic or mentalism? I don't think so. But it is always possible I'm just missing something.

And finally I am well aware of the dictionary definition of magic.

There's no right or wrong to the question, 'is it magic\mentalism' it's all about presentation and style. I've seen Derren, David Berglas, Banachek, Kenton Knepper and many many other people include these sorts of mental feats in their acts successfully. As long as somthing's entertaining and fits the act then I don't see any problem, I've even managed to include balloon modelling into a performance of mentalism.

bmat wrote:

Anjorno wrote:

bmat wrote:I hate to sound negative but I simply don't see how this relates to mentalism, (which is just magic presented differently). But I did watch it again because I am interested and I love the fact that you really try to be original and forward the craft. So can you tell me how it relates to mentalism. All I saw was you solving the rubic's cube.

have you watched Derren brown infamous. I would class him as a mentalist and he does a similar feat which by your definition is not magic. also the trick where you bend a coin is not technically magic as a coin can be bent with bare hands.

DEFINITIONS OF: magic trick. 1 n an illusory feat; considered magical by naïve observers. Synonyms: conjuration, conjuring trick, deception, illusion, legerdemain, magic, thaumaturgy, trick Types: card trick. a trick performed with playing cards.

solving a rubiks cube so fast or giving that illusion can be developed into a mentalist style act which you prove superior mental capacity for example mathematical feats like human calculator, book test claiming to have memorised the contents, Derren's button counting act.

Well I'm backing out of this because obviously I am missing something. All I know is I and most of my friends who also grew up during the Rubic cube phenonmenon can solve a rubic's cube in seconds from any position.

As per bending a coin. I don't know what kind of coins you have but I've yet to meet anyone who can bend American coins with their hands. Plus I can bend the coin with my mind, holding the coin at my fingertips and watch it visibly bend.

I will go out on my regular limb then and say it is all about presentation.

I'm also confused about the maths thing. I've never seen that as mentalism or magic. I see that as a gift, some people are just very good at math like those 6yr olds who do amazing computations in their heads. Or the spelling bee champions. Amazing? of course. Does it fall into the realm of magic or mentalism? I don't think so. But it is always possible I'm just missing something.

And finally I am well aware of the dictionary definition of magic.

search the incredible mr Goodwin he bends a coin to the point of nearly tearing it.