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What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby Tap » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:08 pm



At this YT video:

https://youtu.be/tveHNlIUpBk?t=172

(I made it start at the cut routine)

As you can see, he is cutting very fast, and the video is poor. I cannot find a high enough quality video to slow down and see the moves of this cut.

Does it have a name? Is there a video/explanation that covers the moves?

The method of a card cut in the open should not raise any alarms, I hope, as it is not technically 'magic', but rather a display of practice and dexterity.

Thanks!

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby JohnnyMac » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:00 pm

It looks like the Charlier Cut, but done much better than I do it :-)

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby Tap » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:08 am

John,

Thank you so much for writing. I am familiar with the Charlier (and a few variations!), and for sure there are elements of it there. But I can see him taking a packet in the crotch of the thumb and rotating it away from him at one point, and even holding the 'farthest' packet between 3 fingers, then bringing it back as well. I was hoping to see someone do the exact same cut (which it looks from this and other videos that he just repeats a few times), but no such luck. Either you find 'classic' 3-way cuts based on Prof. Charlier's move, or cardistry.

I've been messing with false-cut Charlers since seeing "Fred"'s cuts-even making a few videos-but I can't get anywhere close. He passed way, way too soon, and I really want to get this part of his routine down as a sort of tribute/remembrance. Finding that it (the cut) is not easily identified/reproduced, I want to discover it even more.

"Fred" can be seen doing this fancy cut as a part of this routine in several videos, but I just can't find one good enough to slow down & see each step.

Thanks again!

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby tiw » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:19 am

It looks like a combination of the swe one handed shift and charlier cut. It starts with the first cut of swe, then he does a charlier before finishing off the swe one handed shift.

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby JohnnyMac » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:13 pm

Tap wrote:John,
"Fred" can be seen doing this fancy cut as a part of this routine in several videos, but I just can't find one good enough to slow down & see each step.


I can see the problem. With old films, the frame rate was around 24 frame per second, so with something done at speed, much of it occurs in-between frames. There is no way of retrieving it, no matter how much you slow it down. The same effect exists with modern video to some extent. I wrote a post on this a few months ago.

https://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic60176.php

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby mark lewis » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:10 am

It looks like the standard pass but with one hand missing! I have actually done it myself for no particular reason on occasion but not before the public and nowhere near as fast as Fred Kaps!

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby bmat » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:06 pm

Some of the moves Ekat uses seem similiar to the Fred Caps moves you are looking at.
She has quite a few video's on her Chanel of card flourishes. May want to have a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWEn339fi7I&t=20s" target="_blank

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby Tap » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:45 am

mark lewis wrote:It looks like the standard pass but with one hand missing!


Hahahah! :)

I would love to know the order of moves... I'm not familiar enough what he is doing ni which order from the fast video to break it down.

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Re: What is this Fred Kaps one-handed cut?

Postby Tap » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:56 pm

bmat wrote:Some of the moves Ekat uses seem similiar to the Fred Caps moves you are looking at.
She has quite a few video's on her Chanel of card flourishes. May want to have a look.


Thanks, bmat! I've been watching/supporting her for a while-more to support women in magic than cardistry. I want to show in my small way (subs/likes) that there is interest in equality in magic, too. A woman can today be a big fish in a small pond very easily, and I love the art that welcomes and promotes this.

As for the topic, I took your sage advice and 'messaged' her, but as a busy mom I'm not holding my breath for a response! :)

Thanks again!

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