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Tip: Read Craig and Stephen's posts first!

EDIT: Ha ha we both posted at the same time! .

No one listens to us mate!

Yes I know...I understand your avatar now! .

All im asking is someone to take a picture of the Device and send it to my PM so i can see what it looks like.

Its not like i can make the device my self i just want to see what it looks like.

That would be exposure.

When I started off in magic I read the description of the Raven and bought it. I've performed it in public... no times.

I then went back to the books and Im sure I use a principal or trick or piece of advice (probably all 3) found in MWCCIM, Bobo and RRTCM. which all together costs less than £10 more than the Raven.

I know it's annoying when people do this in posts when you want an answer but save £20.

JJ wrote:All im asking is someone to take a picture of the Device and send it to my PM so i can see what it looks like.

Its not like i can make the device my self i just want to see what it looks like.

Yes but Craig and Stephen have taken the time to give you some very sound advice. The least you could do is thank them for making the effort .

Oh and you don't need to know what the device looks like. It does the job and with some effort (read: practice) it does the job well. Watch the demo vids etc.

As an amateur, I can't really add anything to the wise professional advice give above but do please bear in mind that such advice is priceless and free of charge - take note and really consider what is said, some magic tutors will charge you several hundred $ or £ for only half that wisdom. In addition, seeing the device won't help any more than seeing a pile of spare parts for a car would tell you how fast that car could go. A lot of magic has hidden bits or items you wouldn’t expect to see and that’s why it’s magic. Raven is a one trick pony but it does the trick very well indeed – if you work on it until you are up to performance standard. As I said to another new member earlier today, bear in mind that a lot of Ravens are bought and never used so it’s not an indispensable piece of kit – the advice given here most certainly is indispensable!

The quick road to good magic does NOT exist it is a myth You could go out now and spend £20,000 on all the latest effects that does NOT make you a magcian. Everyone on here has taken the time to slowly learn the craft and the problems that comes with it

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken

Mandrake, i think i put some postcards in with your order, what did you think of them?

stephenmagic wrote:i think i put some postcards in with your order, what did you think of them?

Whoops, I hadn't spotted those - they were stuck to the back of one envelope and were perfectly concealed. I've been doing unintentional DL's with them today! I like the cards, do you think an inset photo of you might be helpful? Would potential customers like to see if they’re getting David Copperfield or Ali Bongo ? I can't think of anything else to suggest as they do the job very nicely.

that is a small part of it. The customer gets a glossy folder with some postcards, some glossy leaflets (with action pics of me) and A DVd.

Stephen did you get that quote from fight club? its one of my fave movies. I have it as my sig on another forum

yes!

This is a UK site its selling the Delux kit for £23 for people in Great britain woohoo!

ill get that in 2-3 weeks

http://www.penguinmagic.com/europe/product.php?ID=166

A Quarter comes with this but if i happen to loose it what else can i use 10p?

And does the delux kit allow to Vanish but also Reappear?

On the UK penguinmagic Raven delux is sold out i wont be able to get my money til 3 weeks so they will prolly be in by then.

How long does it take Penguinmagic.co.uk to get there stock in anyway?

And i dont know if im making a mistake getting this but for Vanishing a coin and showing both hands empty is this the only trick?

Nope that's taught in Bobo. I maintain, what you can do with the Raven is very limitted.