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to every member of Talkmagic.co.uk, i was thinking of giving up magic becuase of these reasons:

-some people makes fun of me when i perform magic.
-ive wasted a lot of money buying worthless gimmicks.
-when i perform magic to someone they want to know the secrets. and if i dont tell them the will hurt me, a lot of secrets has been revealed!!!

i wanted to buy something expensive but my parents wouldnt let me unless i have enough money, so i think i should give up magic and sell all my magic stuff. you can find my stuff in the Magic for sale Section
do you think i should giveup magic????

No!! just practice more.. and you dont need to spend money on the latest gimmicks! get a good book and practice lots.

and dont show anyone who is likely to beat you up for the secret!

Frankly...

You're at a fragile stage... put magic on the backburner, study in private. Spend your money on books (Bobo's, RRTCM, etc.) and learn from them.

When you get to a stage that schooling/college/girls/money etc. have settled and are out of the equation, perhaps then it's time to re-kindle the art.

Many people do the same. Seems you're at a crossroads, which many of us go through. You just need time to mature, and perform for the right reasons. And this comes with age, partly.

Personally, I think you should give up buying stuff and trying to perform, and if you're serious about getting into magic, spend more time studying than looking for one-hit wonders—which is apparently what you've been doing, judging by your 'for sale' list.

Yup. I agree with Seige. Take a break then stop operating tricks and sit down to learn to create magic.

Just to echo the comments above, you are going about this completly the wrong way. Gimmicks are not the way forward, sure, we all use them from time to time and even i use them on occassion. However the real joy in magic comes from careful study of the craft. The long time spent studying a good book and DVD will bring you much joy and fun. You will learn to love magic even more as your skill level slowly grows. It is the skill of certain aspects of magic that keeps it fun for me, and don't forget fun is the most important part here. As the great Pat Page said "if you don't enjoy it then you should not be doing it". I keep saying this and i will say it till the cows come home. The best flashy expensive gimmicks are often aimed at working magicians and professionals like myself. We buy these as tools the same way as a computer expert may buy the lastest expensive software. It earns us money. You really do not need to spend lots of magic to perform fun and entertaining magic.

We have all suffered the "i want to do i now" syndrome but avoid temptation and start from the beginning. Go right back to basic card work. Careful study of classics such as Royal Road to Card Magic and Born to perform will set you on the right path.

My advice is if people are going to threaten you for not giving away secrets, just simply don't perform for them. If they are friends doing this then they are not really friends are they! Find some new ones or even see if anyone else is into magic who lives near you. You could practise together. Getting advice off fellow magicians is a great way to gain confidence and experience.

The other benefit from learning all the moves and sleights is that will often find yourself creating your own effects. This can be great fun to do, i have several routines in my own acts that were created by me. It really gives a great sense of achievement.
I would take some time to really think, how much do you enjoy magic? what was it that first attracted you to it. I hope you do what feels right for you, just follow you heart and do what you feel is best

Now.... My favourite story! (yes i know i have said this before )

"Many years ago in America there was a young boy who loved the magic he saw on TV and at parties. He purchased a book called "Royal Road To Card Magic" and i think the BOBO book. He spent many a day learning all the material". The point of this story?.... The boys name was LANCE BURTON

Point made....

Magic can be a struggle, it can be very hard to learn some material and at times you will feel like giving up. Every magician has had this feeling at one point. So this post is directed at anyone here who is in the same position. Stick with it, some things are worth the struggle. It may not be easy at times but then good things are not always easy.

i think i should stop because theres no point of doing it now. i really really want that thing. and i think its better than magic for me. i might still perform magic but i should see if the person im showing it to is not a bully!

are any of you interested on buying my stuff? because i really need the money. if not, it doesnt really matter because there are others might be interested.

If you don't mind me asking, what is this thing you're after? Is it something you desperately NEED, or something you desperately WANT? If it's the former, and you really do need it, then it's understandable that you would be willing to sell your magic to raise the necessary funds.

If it's some trivial thing though that you really want, then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to give up your magic. Or maybe this need to sell your magic is telling you about your commitment to it. Maybe some of the things that you know you will never use again you could sell, but otherwise - don't let something you really want cloud your vision and judgement, otherwise when you have it you'll probably start wishing you had kept some more of your magic stuff.

There are lots of things I want, but I save up for them. I might trade in the occasional DVD or game, but generally I take some money from my job and put it towards what I want.

Don't be discouraged by bad experiences either. However, as others have said, you must do what you feel is right and best for you. Even if you don't show many people your magic, it's still always something you can study in private and in your own time...best of luck.

Dont give up! Sure, sell all your stuff, but buy RRTCM and several packs of cards!

When you get bored of playing football or going on the computer or when you go on holiday, work your way through it. If you learn it like it tells you to, you will learn to be more creative and you will enjoy magic loads more. Sometimes time and life do not permit to do magic, but there's no point in saying you have definatley given up.

Seige and Stephen are right (of course).

Just to add, have you heard the expression "the want is better than the have"? Do you know everything about this thing you so badly have to get? if not then it's not worth all that money, you know exactly where you stand with something like RRTCM. So many times so many people have been blinded by sales pitch and ended up sorely disappointed, me for one!

Start with solid, tried and tested foundations, and who knows where this will take you. Who knows you may even turn pro and earn the money for all these wangle fangle gadgets!!!

100% correct

Amen to that Brothers

well the dealer gave me an offer price of £200 RC Helicopter. you know that they sell them cheap in Malaysia. ive always wanted it when i was a kid. the original price was £300 (thats £100 savings).ive always wanted it, better than anything else i can think of. but my parents wouldnt let me buy it unless i have my own money. im not giving up 100%, i might still be performing in the streets like i always do.

glad to hear it.
keep it up!

If it's just any r/c helicopter you're looking for then have you seen the bladerunner? If it's a specific model ignore me.

Kati

Give up.

You'll probably get back into when your older anyway and by then you'll be more disciplined and people will take you more seriously.

I quit when I was about 13 and didn't get back into till I was about 18/19.