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Postby youngunz_77 » Aug 23rd, '06, 03:57



heres me, sure lol laugh
street magic 1 - explicit content (swearing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_4KOWC3-6c
street magic 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8uy2Jb654
jumping gemini -("crazy card trick?") lol me with the "chinese european accent"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7uBhkVnXZE
mercury-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxLuDnlE_Ko

invisible palm-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegXNxkV-Ys

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Postby JimSardonic » Aug 23rd, '06, 06:15

Wow.

Perhaps a note about how this contains language inappropriate for young children?

I'd hate to have someone watch this in a quiet family room.

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Postby Demitri » Aug 23rd, '06, 09:06

First of all, these videos are little more than a bunch of punk kids cursing and acting like idiots. That alone is really enough to make pretty much anyone click the little "x" on the window.

Secondly - could the camera guy be any LESS interested in what you're doing? Aside from vomit-inducing shaking of the camera, he kept panning away to the kid with the basketball.

The only drawback is that some of the magic was actually decent - just completely lost in the mix of this utter c*** (not the best). Have more respect for what you're presenting, and perhaps the quality will go up. Regardless of anything you've done in these videos, it all amounts to nothing given everything else going on.

And yes - there should be a warning on these. I can care less about cursing and all that, but this was just stupid.

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Postby i1011i » Aug 23rd, '06, 09:42

That was fairly painful to watch.

I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be serious or not.

I am going on the assumption it is not so that I can sleep later on.

The tricks you are doing are decent tricks, but you are ruining them with your execution. If you want to get the reactions you asked your friends for in front of real people you need to work on your presentation.

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Postby youngunz_77 » Aug 23rd, '06, 20:26

:lol: :o


appreciate it! and i have to admit those ppl werent all that sweary, JUST THAT ONE GUY- i gess he thought he was gangster and all doing that. Didnt u notice? he kept saying the saaaaame thing over and over and neverending agen. and my friends cant use the camera if they got paid for it sorry bout that.

-ill work on my execution :roll:

and agen thanks for even bothering, but anyone got comments on the 3rd one? its like the only serious one i got up there

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Postby Demitri » Aug 23rd, '06, 21:01

Ok - your third effect is Jumping Gemini, one of my absolute favorite effects.

You have the basic premise of this routine down, but I think you figured this out on your own and came up with a handling of your own. Am I correct? I only say this because you have a lot of unnecessary moves in there.

I suggest finding a resource that will teach you the original handling of the effect. This will not only help you build some of the problem areas I am going to mention, but it will also teach you exactly how this effect should be prepared and executed, to cut out any extraneous moves. For instance, there is no need to reorganize the cards before the display of the 10's or the Kings. In the traditional handling, it is plotted out perfectly to lead you directly into the next sequence without having to pause to prepare your packet.

As you look for that resource, here are a few things to consider:

DL's - Your handling of the DL is awkward, and highly suspicious. Turning over cards in that manner isn't very natural looking, nor is the amount of time you take to turn it. A DL should be quick and effortless - with the least amount of hesitation or "prep" before the move is made. The longer you take, the easier it is to spot. Try working with a strike double, push off double - there are many variations (Gregory Wilson's Double Take DVD is an excellent resource). This trick relies almost exclusively on this one move, and without a smooth, quick DL - the effect loses almost all of it's strength.

Relax your grip on the cards, as well. You seem to be squeezing a bit. Let your fingers loosen up a bit, and the sure handling will follow.

This was a good effort. Keep it up. My apologies if I came off as harsh in my original comment. I should have pointed out that YOU were not making any of the remarks or crude statements - so that should be mentioned.

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Postby youngunz_77 » Aug 23rd, '06, 21:19

Demitri wrote:Ok - your third effect is Jumping Gemini, one of my absolute favorite effects.

You have the basic premise of this routine down, but I think you figured this out on your own and came up with a handling of your own. Am I correct? I only say this because you have a lot of unnecessary moves in there.

I suggest finding a resource that will teach you the original handling of the effect. This will not only help you build some of the problem areas I am going to mention, but it will also teach you exactly how this effect should be prepared and executed, to cut out any extraneous moves. For instance, there is no need to reorganize the cards before the display of the 10's or the Kings. In the traditional handling, it is plotted out perfectly to lead you directly into the next sequence without having to pause to prepare your packet.

As you look for that resource, here are a few things to consider:

DL's - Your handling of the DL is awkward, and highly suspicious. Turning over cards in that manner isn't very natural looking, nor is the amount of time you take to turn it. A DL should be quick and effortless - with the least amount of hesitation or "prep" before the move is made. The longer you take, the easier it is to spot. Try working with a strike double, push off double - there are many variations (Gregory Wilson's Double Take DVD is an excellent resource). This trick relies almost exclusively on this one move, and without a smooth, quick DL - the effect loses almost all of it's strength.

Relax your grip on the cards, as well. You seem to be squeezing a bit. Let your fingers loosen up a bit, and the sure handling will follow.

This was a good effort. Keep it up. My apologies if I came off as harsh in my original comment. I should have pointed out that YOU were not making any of the remarks or crude statements - so that should be mentioned.


:o i appreciate that! these are the type of comments i was hoping for and yes ur correct, i did figure it out myself. <_< and a lot of ppl figure it out when i try to do it in front of them. I agree my handling is repetetive and the amateur that i am, i only used TWO??? styles of the DL, and none of them are smooth :roll: . Ill work on it tho thanks and ill make sure ill put variations next time :D

thanks agen!

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Postby Demitri » Aug 23rd, '06, 21:23

IF you need any help, pm me. I love talking about this effect.

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Postby mccabe24 » Aug 24th, '06, 01:00

You need to work on revealing the fourth 10 of spades in the Jumping Gemini a little bit more. It was a little obvious. Other than that, it was good.

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Postby youngunz_77 » Aug 24th, '06, 21:39

mccabe24 wrote:You need to work on revealing the fourth 10 of spades in the Jumping Gemini a little bit more. It was a little obvious. Other than that, it was good.

yupp thanks, i asked sum1 about that and i still have to get a reply from them

and still working on that variation :cry:

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Postby youngunz_77 » Aug 26th, '06, 19:00

am i allowed to double post in here?

but anyways heres me taking it a lil bit more serious by trying mercury

im begging for comments

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IxLuDnlE_Ko

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Postby majortom » Aug 27th, '06, 14:29

That one was really good, much better than the other ones :D

Well done 8)

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Postby Perfelti » Aug 27th, '06, 18:32

well done


sugestion: retape 1 and 2 with a different camera man

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Postby youngunz_77 » Aug 27th, '06, 19:56

Perfelti wrote:well done


sugestion: retape 1 and 2 with a different camera man

THANKS GUYS
lol i know, theyre amateurs of amateurs


but anyways heres my final vid guys! ive worked on it, and i think ive gotten the touch for it... but im too lazy to retape

invisible palm attempts :P

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FegXNxkV-Ys

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Postby i1011i » Aug 27th, '06, 22:05

Not bad, but you do need to work a great deal on your handling. It is very mechanical at times. Keep working with the moves until you get a nice flowing elegance with the cards, till you can handle them exactly like you are proposing they are.

Most of the time when a magician spots what another magician is doing, they are spotting the "awkwardsness" that comes with certain sleights or handlings. When you learn to get passed that is when you start to fool magicians, even with simple double lifts or flash shuffles.

Don't let me discourage you brother, I believe you have the skill. Work it. 8)

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