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Cardza is absolutely right. When I do an ambitious card routine, the first thing the spectator thinks is --- fake pack, not - great sleight of hand, and they want to examine it, which is great because as they look through the pack trying to find their card its stuck to my forehead (ungimmicked).
Dont get me wrong I'm not against gimmicks, we all use them from time to time, but they should not be relied on for every effect. Phase them in and out of a routine to enhance rather that dominate your act. At the end of the day nothing compares to real skill wiith an ordinary deck of cards!

Nope, not for me. I am very anti obvious sleight of hand and not a flourisher for this reason. The way I do it, however, I later reinforce the idea that they saw it change without me even touching it. So they do not attribute it to my sleight of hand but they also know that there was no gimmickery involved.

this is a fair point cardza, i am all for suggestive comments after the fact, which have influence on the way the audience remembers the trick. However, i still remain unconvinced that anyone is truly baffled by the erdnase, even if they dont know how its done, the hand movements required are unnatural, no matter how smoothly performed. Slide up, slide down...... you dont have to be a genius to figure out something fishy has just happened. As i said, my (drunk) friend figured it out after a about 10 minutes with his cards. Why not just learn Shapeshifter??? its 10x better anyway!!

Masuda has created something wich fools the pants off people, and shocks them badly, people gasp and stare at you when it is performed. rather than giving you that impressed but slightly knowing look which an erdnase change gets. Although by now it should be obvious that i am not a fan of th move, and think that is given far more respect than it deserves, there are some effects which i think erdnase is good for: Sankeys trick of drawaing a bottle and a boat on a card and magically pushing the boat inside the bottle is excellent (sorry cant remeber the name, its on his greatest hits) and other similar effects which provide misdirection for the hand movents. And if you really want to take this move to the next level, i suggest learning Nathan Kranzo's Therdnase found on (see his Visual Vodoo dvd), which is a 3 phase colour change, which he uses to go from ace to 4, with very little movement of the hands.

WOW is Awesome, dont listen to the cynics.

Atomo out!

Hi Guys

I picked up my wow at the Ipswich convention yesterday and I am really pleased with it, but not had a chance to use it in a walk round situation yet.

One thing wow has done for me is bring to my attention Mesuda.

He is a very clever inventor/magician.

It is worth looking at some of his other effects such as

Frozen In Time
Five Black Holes
Visual Transposition

The above a gems, Alakazam stock these items too.

Do a search on the web for the demos of these and trust me you will be impressed.

Cheers

does anyone know where demos of his othe products can be seen online?

Well, even though I know the wallet-thing is gimmicked, the fact that one card is taken out of it and it is then seen to be transparent makes the effect very powerful in my opinion! Still, tis a lot of money.

here is a link to the Mesuda video clips

http://atto.goto-shops.com/English/QT%2 ... 0WOW!.html

They are all on the page watch and enjoy!

Cheers

Alakazam have a full page with demo vids of all the products. There is some pretty cool stuff there.

Atomo wrote:no.4 Turdnase- "if i just wave my hand over the cards in this sort of weird unatural way, (slide up, slide down, slide up again)we see the card has changed!

I've ranted elsewhere - laying into the DL - about this kind of 'odd movement only magicians do' giveaway. However, I must disagree with you when it comes to the Erdnase.
1 (And this is always my best criterion) It totally fooled/amazed me when I was a small child. My six-or-seven-year-old self wanted to think the magician had a card palmed, that he placed on top of the shown card to produce the change: but he obviously didn't - his hand was, undeniably, empty. I was flummoxed.
2 To do the Erndase as you discribe - "slide up, slide down, slide up again" - is, in my personal opinion, the mark of needing a good kicking. I know people do it like this (and people who are far, far better card workers than one-step-above-rubbish me), but I think it's wrong and they are evil. This is how it should look: 'He's showing us the card, now, as he gently waves his hand over it, it changes' (or '... after covering it for the merest instant, his fingers jerk widely apart and - Boom! In a flash! - it's changed.' The first 'up' should be unnoticed - unnoticeable, ideally - the next 'down' and 'up' not a staccato, putting-a-round-into-the-breech movement, but rather a casual, subtle display seeming to say, 'See? The card's still there, OK? I'm just letting you see it again to be as open as I can about this.' Which means the change and the, sole, 'magical gesture' appear to happen at the same instant and utterly out of the blue/without preparation.

Elsewhere, a little-used but - coming unexpectedly - jaw-dropping, 'That changed right in front of my eyes' change is the RRTCM's unimaginatively-titled 'The Changing Card'. (BTW, it's one of those things that, on the page, appears a bit naff and, when you know the method, you're inclined to reject out of hand because you think it'll never fly, but is actually great.)

Just got WOW today...although have not done the trick, the gimmick is awesome.

The plastic wallet can be seen straight thru - it looks clear! But of course it can change to the signed card with a small movement, pretty amazing.

Safe Sexton Blake,
nothing better than a bit of card-banter, just to defend my familys honor, i do a silky-butter-smooth Erdnase, and i hope do not fall into the catergory of card mongerers who 'need a kicking', but alot of card-pro's, including 'sleight of hand superstar' Jay Sankey, do the old slide up-slide down erdnase which i was describing, which in IMO makes the move look as dodgy green TT. But i still think that erdnase is a white belt move, and people should be setting their sights on the mysterious ninja like flick of the Shapeshifter change.

Thanks for the tip on the Royal Road move, im gonna go and look that sucker up right now!

p.s since this is a WOW thread, i wanna give a shout out to my dad, who spilt his tea when he saw the effect.

Peace yall -ATOMO

So far, in initial trials all the heat has been on the card, not on the gimmick and responses have been very encouraging.

I'm trying to work on a presentational theme along the lines of:

'I haven't seen your selection, either the front or the back and now I'm going to try and find your card just by the warmth its picked up from you touching it'.
Having found the wrong card:
'Are you sure? This card feels pretty warm too. I'll just put it between these two sheets of glass to cool it down. Ah its still the wrong card, I'll just give it a shake to get some breeze flowing over it..............

Anyone any thoughts on this or better ideas to present?

Wow Martin!
What a great idea!
I've been using Wow for about a week now, and have received nothing but positive reactions. All the heat has been on the card, NOT the sleeve.
But I must say again, I love your line of patter and reason for 'sleeving' the card.
As far as the 'skill v gimmick' battle goes, I quote Mr Daniels from his lecture on Sun at the Ipswich Magic Convention...... It's NEVER about the trick, it's the performer. Personally I agree, it doesn't matter to the layman HOW the effect was achieved (gimmicked or skilled ), it's the performer and his/ her performance.

The reviews and comments of this product really make it seem very very interesting.
I have some questions (hopefully somebody can answer them) :

1. Can beginners (like me) perform it well with a little practice ?
2. Is it angle-proof ?
3. Can you perform it again quickly ?

Thank you all !

if you know the basics of card magic, i.e card control and DL's you can build a SICK routine with this item.

I've just got Masuda's Ambelitious Card too, its good! im gonna do a review soon when i've had some experience using it.

Hi,

alakazam is currently sold out and jbtv appear not to sell it, so does anyone know of other sites that sell this?